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[Help] Change Oil but not Filter?

nope

stop being lazy

reply to jabarnut
Change the filter - it is just as important as changing the oil.

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I hear that, "some say," Honda (of Canada) oil filters are made by FRAM. Not that FRAM oil filters are bad for those who change very frequently...

But, change it anyways.
Use the S2000 filter if it fits, cause the filter itself is bigger and can hold more oil than the rest of the Honda filters.
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reply to jabarnut
Take it to a quick-change oil place or even a dealer. For $15-25 it will done "better" than doing it your way by not changing the filter.

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When I owned a VW the filters where Mahle brand and they had printed on them (in German) "Long life oil filter - 15,000km"

But personally I wouldn't bother to change the oil unless I was changing the filter. I'd prefer to drive another 1,000 miles on a dirty filter and oil than to just change only the oil.

OEM is probably the best filter they take into account all the factors when designing or sourcing parts. Fram just says "How can we make the most profit off selling this part"

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It's probably even more important to change the filter then the oil. At least _as_ important.

As Hall mentioned, if you cannot do it yourself at this time, take it to a good shop and have the oil/filter changed for you. It's probably only going to cost an extra $10.

Personally, I also change my own oil. First, because I like to use Synth and it's much cheaper for me to do it. Second, so I can make sure it's done correctly and things like tightening the oil filter and putting the oil plug back in are done.

reply to jabarnut
Change it.

If you check out bobistheoilguy.com forums, and ask there they are going to tell you the same thing.

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Well, thanks for all the replies guys.

It wasn't long after I started this thread though, that I realized I knew better. Guess I hadn't had enough Coffee yet.

So, therefore, my Oil *and* Filter are both changed (I did it this morning not long after my post).
It was the usual fun, but the Car and I are both happy now.

On a side note...what are some of these Engineers thinking when they're designing Engines???

My Toyota's filter is right in the front under the hood in plain sight (facing down), with no obstructions, and is so easy to change a 2 year old could do it.

The Honda is underneath and behind the engine toward the passenger side, and you can barley see it, let alone get your fingers or a filter wrench in there...especially with all the "other junk" in the way.

Oh, never mind...I know what they're thinking.
"Hey, pay us to do it".
"We have the tools and the technology"

Hehe...thanks again.
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i work at a service garage and you should not listen to those who say aww skip the filter this time. that is a mistake. change it or take it somewhere to have it changed.

reply to Hall

I expected to get a rash of comments telling about someone's little horror story but fact is, these places work on a LOT of cars each day with most having NO problems. Even if you take it to the dealer, they may have a "new" guy doing this or maybe not even a full mechanic.

A regular Fram filter cost $3-4 (a better Fram filter is $6-7) and a quart of good brand oil is almost $2/ea (what does synthetic run ?). That's $14 for most cars + not having to crawl under the car, dispose of the oil, and get your hands dirty... I *used* to change my own but for $25 and a half-hour of my free time, I let the Honda dealer do it.

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I use Amsoil filters, good for 25k miles =) I actually change them every 2 oil changes, or 15k or so miles. I also have a Fumoto drain valve on my oil pan, so it's a really easy job.
1. Drive onto Rhino Ramps
2. open drain valve, let oil drain
3. close valve
4. add oil

done =)
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Change it.

I do my 95 Civic every 3k miles. Regular 10w/30 Pennzoil with a Mobil 1 filter.

Yes, it is a pain in the ass. I have to drive mine onto a set of plastic ramps to make enough ground clearance to do it.

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They used to sell kits to move your filter to a remote location. I used a lot of them when we were putting Chevy 350s into datsun 240z and 280z. Do not feel lonely my Saturn SC2 can only be done from underneath and it is right below the head.

reply to Hall
As jpeckinp mentions... it happens more then you think. It might only be 1% but when you change thousands each year, there are going to be quite a few. Bottom line... it's not rocket science to screw in the filter or plug. Those are about the only two things you have to do right... and they still get it wrong. Bad thing is that the compensation from the insurance company is not going to make up for the loss. I'd rather have _my_ used engine in my vehicle rather then someone elses used engine or a rebuilt one.