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Re: Yet another idiot driver at a RR Crossing Wow, no gates at a crossing like that? It's possible the driver didn't even know a train was there before he was on top of the tracks.... (Yes, anyone with brains would slow at a non-lit crossing, but people are stupid.)
Close one though. Had he been hit, the cameraman would've gotten it too. | |
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Brownsburg, IN | said by captokita:It's possible the driver didn't even know a train was there before he was on top of the tracks.... The commentary from the guy running the camera says the truck stopped at the crossing and then took off. I find it highly unlikely that the driver didn't see the train.
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| said by Ken:The commentary from the guy running the camera says the truck stopped at the crossing and then took off. I find it highly unlikely that the driver didn't see the train. Hmm, ok then. I didn't listen to it, just watched it. It LOOKED as though it just drove right through. If he had stopped first, he's even more of an idiot. | |
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Brownsburg, IN | reply to Ken
I meant the commentary on the page, not in the video. | |
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said by captokita:It's possible the driver didn't even know a train was there before he was on top of the tracks.... (Yes, anyone with brains would slow at a non-lit crossing, but people are stupid.) Some people have themselves programmed, turn here, stop there... He probably didnt even look.
The presence of gates and or lights is determined by the amount of rail traffic and road traffic at a crossing. If there is only a few trains per week, and just a little traffic at some backwoods crossing then the rr is probably only gonna put up crossbucks.
People that drive around gates in front of me going 70 piss me off... ust because i'm big and heavy doesnt mean i'm not going fast.  | | |
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| said by burner50:said by captokita:It's possible the driver didn't even know a train was there before he was on top of the tracks.... (Yes, anyone with brains would slow at a non-lit crossing, but people are stupid.) Some people have themselves programmed, turn here, stop there... He probably didnt even look. The presence of gates and or lights is determined by the amount of rail traffic and road traffic at a crossing. If there is only a few trains per week, and just a little traffic at some backwoods crossing then the rr is probably only gonna put up crossbucks. I have to jump in here. Around these parts, we have MANY grade crossings, but I have not ever seen a set of tracks around here with a grade crossing that DOES NOT have gates.
Since I'm from these parts, I'm programmed only to stop when I see the gates or flashing red. I'm sure in my travels across the northeast and mid-atlantic that I have blown over tracks without stopping (or looking), simply because I'm used to seeing gates.
So, for some people, they might be programmed to stop and look. Other people, depending on where they are from, may not be.
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| said by Jeffrey:said by burner50:said by captokita:It's possible the driver didn't even know a train was there before he was on top of the tracks.... (Yes, anyone with brains would slow at a non-lit crossing, but people are stupid.) Some people have themselves programmed, turn here, stop there... He probably didnt even look. The presence of gates and or lights is determined by the amount of rail traffic and road traffic at a crossing. If there is only a few trains per week, and just a little traffic at some backwoods crossing then the rr is probably only gonna put up crossbucks. I have to jump in here. Around these parts, we have MANY grade crossings, but I have not ever seen a set of tracks around here with a grade crossing that DOES NOT have gates. Since I'm from these parts, I'm programmed only to stop when I see the gates or flashing red. I'm sure in my travels across the northeast and mid-atlantic that I have blown over tracks without stopping (or looking), simply because I'm used to seeing gates. So, for some people, they might be programmed to stop and look. Other people, depending on where they are from, may not be. They are there. And many if not MOST do not have gates OR lights... Only major crossings have gates and busy roads get lights...
Like I said it depends on the area, track speed, and amount of vehicle or pedestrian traffic at the crossing...
PS - I am in the Midwest where the population is not nearly as dense as the Northeast. | |
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| said by burner50:They are there. And many if not MOST do not have gates OR lights... Only major crossings have gates and busy roads get lights... Like I said it depends on the area, track speed, and amount of vehicle or pedestrian traffic at the crossing... PS - I am in the Midwest where the population is not nearly as dense as the Northeast. I don't doubt they are there, I just don't think any exist on Long Island, where I spend 95% of my time. Every grade crossing around here - even on roads that have traffic only in the daytime - have gates.
When the power goes out, it's interesting. The gates are programmed to go down when the power goes out, so then cops at every grade crossing show up to guide cars around the tracks, steering clear of the electric, diesel, and dual-mode trains that come through.
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sucks to be them... I dont think that would happen around here, but until the power is restored EVERY train has to stop at EVERY crossing with malfunctioning lights/gates and protect the crossing before proceeding.
What kind of trains do you see there? Electric, Diesel, and Dual mode?
I'm curious to know about the dual mode trains... Pictures maybe? | |
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Dual-Mode | 
Electric Only | 
Old Diesel (out of use) |
At any rate, the LIRR runs from under 34th and 7th in midtown Manhattan (known as Penn Station) all the way east to Montauk Point, at the southern tip of Long Island. It's busiest commuter railroad in N. America - almost 300,000 passengers/day.
Parts of the system are electrified, and other parts are not. In the past, the LIRR used 2 models; diesel only and electric only. For those people commuting on a diesel to NYC, you'd have to change at a major hub outside of NYC due to the fact that the diesels can't enter the east-river tunnels to get to Penn Station.
Most of the engines from the 1960s to the 1990s were built by Budd and General Electric. New electric trains from Bombardier were purchased in the late 1990s that replaced the older electric cars.
Since it's not cost-effective to electrify the entire system, the MTA purchased many "dual mode" locomotives, built specifically by a now-closed section of a General Motors division. The dual-modes have double the rate of breakdown as the electric only trains, but they have their perks. For one, double-decker cars. Secondly, gone is the need to change at the hub to continue your journey to NYC---in one motion, they turn the diesel engines off and turn the electric on, and are then allowed to slip into the tunnel.
Main Site: »www.lirr.org
LIRR info: »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Island_Rail_Road
LIRR fleet: »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Islan···ad_fleet
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Also I wanted to mention the diesels are Diesel-electric...
The diesel engine powers a large alternator that sends power to several electric traction motors (4-6 motors per engine). | |
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Jeffrey, the reason you don't see the LIRR hauling freight is because a freight line took over freight duties from the LIRR In 1997, The New York and Atlantic Railway-
»www.anacostia.com/nyar/nyar.html
They are doing VERY well I might add, averaging 20,000 carloads a year  The freight rail business there, as well as across the nation is booming, they are really helping to take more and more trucks off the roads.
Some more links-
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_a···_Railway
»www.oldnyc.com/bayridge/contents···dge.html | |
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| Interesting - shares the same tracks too. They must run them at night or something. I see about 1 freight per day, and it's usually about 6 cars long hauled by a locomotive that looks like it was built 200 years ago. I'll have to check out those links.
I'm all for more freight around here. Get the damn semi's off the LIE. 
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They are doing VERY well I might add, averaging 20,000 carloads a year The freight rail business there, as well as across the nation is booming, they are really helping to take more and more trucks off the roads.
thats funny wonder who comes to rail head to pickup the goods for final delivery and transportation ?
dont foget the truckinging compnies are using the railroad to transport alot of trailers containers on wheels and some railroads have their own trucking companies such as csx | |
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1 edit | said by burner50:Final Delivery is where they should be I agree! There is also a lot of transloading (train to truck, vice versa) going on as well now, I know the BNSF just opened up a huge transload facility in Fontana on some of the old Kaiser Steel facility, and there are a lot opening up all the time. »www.google.com/search?q=railroad···=1I7GGIH
I also realize that some things have to be delivered by truck to the consumer, but many of those things can go by intermodal (container, trailer on flat car) or rail car for most of their destination, then by truck to the stores or wherever. The perishable's market is another one where the railroads are taking back a huge share of the market, both by reefer car and by intermodal, and have ordered hundreds of new 70 foot jumbo reefers, and remanufactured and updated still more older 50 foot and 57 foot reefers. Here's a good article on that-
»findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m···674/pg_1
There are many goods than never need to touch a truck as well, such as coal, grain, aggregrates, etc.
I think indy has the wrong idea, this is about using trucks and trains to keep the country going, but trains are more economical, more fuel efficient and can ship in volumes truckers can only dreram of, not to mention too many trucks on the roads equals more congestion, pollution and road wear and tear. The booming rail traffic is a win win for everybody, trucks, trains and America
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