AT&T has big plans for U-Verse in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r19602725 en Tue, 08 Dec 2009 19:27:36 EDT Tue, 08 Dec 2009 19:27:36 EDT Re: AT&T has big plans for U-Verse http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19608275 kdepasquale : Yup. It seems to me that because they are essentially putting a VRAD in every neighborhood, they already have half the infrastructure there, and will still be able to save money in the future by running fiber from the VRAD to the premises.

Instead of running many fiber lines really far the way they currently do with copper, they'll be able to minimize the amount of fiber coming from the CO - some set amount for each VRAD - and essentially reduce the amount of fiber necessary to run each neighborhood.

I'm also wondering if having the equipment spaced all over a city would help with redundancy - they won't be keeping all of their eggs in one basket - at least as far as getting signal to the customers' homes is concerned.
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said by timcuth See Profile :

Who wants this service, anyway? I don't see any advantage over DSL on the broadband side. Is it better than cable or satellite for TV service? Also, they had better be prepared to offer everything in HDTV, as that is the way everyone is going.
Playing devil's advocate this time (or should I say Darth Vader or something), U-Verse can limp along with HD pretty well: with good codecs and delivery, they can deliver what the customers order, if it's just HD they're talking about. Even though Deathstar's TV lineup right now sucks, it doesn't have to continue sucking; they could Comcastify it (Comcast's slogan for improving their network to the point of making it wholy worthwhile and modern) or equivilant after they've already done the equipment installations.

They can also deliver more broadband too.

What they can't do is deliver high quality broadband and hands-down high room number HD streams; for that, they'd probably just ask you to order extra lines.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19608106 Wed, 12 Dec 2007 01:06:10 EDT Re: AT&T has big plans for U-Verse http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19607909 jpboss :
said by kdepasquale See Profile :

Will it be possible for AT&T to upgrade the equipment in the VRADs for FTTH in the future? If that's the case, then it may not be such a big problem upgrading their capacity in the future. I wonder if this is what they've been planning all along.
Hehe, someone has finally hit the big nail on the head. Some say it makes no sense to not deploy fiber now, however with the recent advancements in fiber e.g.(bendable fiber by Corning) there are reasons to go at it a little slower, if you can provide acceptable service to the 75-80% of the public that wants this type of service and can accept some little growing pains for a lower bill every month, why not? I was skeptical at AT&T's plan at first but ole Ma Bell may get the old big ship turned around in a couple of years. All the critics may be surprised.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19607909 Wed, 12 Dec 2007 00:09:25 EDT Re: AT&T has big plans for U-Verse http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19607452 kdepasquale : Will it be possible for AT&T to upgrade the equipment in the VRADs for FTTH in the future? If that's the case, then it may not be such a big problem upgrading their capacity in the future. I wonder if this is what they've been planning all along.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19607452 Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:34:32 EDT Re: AT&T has big plans for U-Verse http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19605010 bogey780 : Faith is something a person has when they don't know the reasoning or factors at work.

The only thing I should have "faith" in is AT&T meeting it's sign-up goals. As far as deployment, I'm pretty sure I'll get it when I figure I will.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19605010 Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:18:56 EDT Re: AT&T has big plans for U-Verse http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19604394 Rob :
said by bogey780 See Profile :

The architecture is different requiring different outlays. A slow initial growth is about expected. It's once the groundwork is placed that growth can take off.

The schedules they have and have distributed cover large areas... it's just it takes about a year for conditioning to occur and new crews to be trained for installing. So you're going to see geometric growth in customers.
I wish I had as much faith in AT&T as you do...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19604394 Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:45:27 EDT Re: AT&T has big plans for U-Verse http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19604365 bogey780 : The architecture is different requiring different outlays. A slow initial growth is about expected. It's once the groundwork is placed that growth can take off.

The schedules they have and have distributed cover large areas... it's just it takes about a year for conditioning to occur and new crews to be trained for installing. So you're going to see geometric growth in customers.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19604365 Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:42:00 EDT Re: AT&T has big plans for U-Verse http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19604322 Rob :
said by bogey780 See Profile :

And when Verizon was at 500k TV customers, AT&T was at 39k. It's not like AT&T has been doing this for years.
Nobody said that. But "a couple hundred thousand behind Verizon at only a fraction of the cost" is typical AT&T talk for "We're way behind, but our investors are happy with that we're "upgrading" but at our own slow pace".

Let's be realistic here. They want to pass 30 million homes by 2010? We're entering 2008 now. They are going to really need to start dishing out a ton of cash. Unlike Verizon who manages to handle their upset investors, AT&T does everything to please them..

I have a feeling that in 2010, AT&T will come forward and say that their 30 million mark is a little behind, or in their terms "only a couple hundred thousand behind Verizon", and the real numbers will be nowhere near the 30 million mark. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19604322 Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:35:49 EDT Re: AT&T has big plans for U-Verse http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19604298 bogey780 : And when Verizon was at 500k TV customers, AT&T was at 39k. It's not like AT&T has been doing this for years.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19604298 Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:32:39 EDT Re: AT&T has big plans for U-Verse http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19604229 Rob :
said by bogey780 See Profile :

yea...they're only a couple hundred thousand behind Verizon at only a fraction of the cost. What are they thinking?!
Come on bogey....

Verizon services 1.3 Million FiOS customers, and 700,000+ FiOSTV customers.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19604229 Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:23:22 EDT Re: AT&T has big plans for U-Verse http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19604159 bogey780 : yea...they're only a couple hundred thousand behind Verizon at only a fraction of the cost. What are they thinking?!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19604159 Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:12:45 EDT Re: AT&T has big plans for U-Verse http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19604148 bogey780 : it was 126k in the end of the last quarter. It is quite higher than that right now if the projections hold.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19604148 Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:12:00 EDT Re: AT&T has big plans for U-Verse http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19603885 cornelius785 : i don't see how u-verse is all that bad. i know it is FTTN not FTTH, but it allows for some of the present infrastructure to be used, and i wouldn't be surprised if it is faster to wire a town/city up than FTTH, but that is just speculation. i'm also guessing the time from when the order was placed to when the connection is live is faster, they probably could even do without sending a technician to install, since it is just VDSL from node to house.

isn't MDUs hold up verizon (no conspiracy theories please) to some extent? FTTN can bypass that issue for the most part, they can also wait for verizon to figure out a good method of getting fiber to MDU that also has been tested, in-field, extensively. when ATT is finally ready to convert from FTTN to FTTH all they need to do is run fiber for the last few thousand feet, which could be a long time from now. according to wikipedia, it looks like major cities are getting wired up first, something verizon is avoiding (atleast has been) ignoring for a while.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19603885 Tue, 11 Dec 2007 13:32:04 EDT Re: AT&T has big plans for U-Verse http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19602973 Rob :
said by timcuth See Profile :

There is a big difference between "homes passed" and actual customers. If 1% of the 30 million homes passed actually subscribed, that would yield 300,000 paying customers.

Who wants this service, anyway? I don't see any advantage over DSL on the broadband side. Is it better than cable or satellite for TV service? Also, they had better be prepared to offer everything in HDTV, as that is the way everyone is going.

Tim
What gets me is, in 2010, it'll be time to upgrade the network to all fiber. It's a never ending story with them.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19602973 Tue, 11 Dec 2007 10:59:46 EDT Re: AT&T has big plans for U-Verse http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19602965 timcuth : There is a big difference between "homes passed" and actual customers. If 1% of the 30 million homes passed actually subscribed, that would yield 300,000 paying customers.

Who wants this service, anyway? I don't see any advantage over DSL on the broadband side. Is it better than cable or satellite for TV service? Also, they had better be prepared to offer everything in HDTV, as that is the way everyone is going.

Tim
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AT&T Inc. on Tuesday raised its dividend 12.7 percent, announced a share buyback and set a long-term target for its TV service, which is delivered over phone lines, saying it will be available to 30 million customers by 2010.

AT&T expects to spend between $4.5 billion and $5 billion on U-verse through 2008.

Stephenson told analysts the new target includes customers in the Southeastern states formerly served by BellSouth Corp., which AT&T acquired late last year.

AT&T shares rose $2.10, or 5.5 percent, to $40 in morning trading Tuesday.
30 million homes passed by 2010. They have a long way to go to reach that. It will be hard for them to reach that number. They only have 126,000 U-verse customers right now.
126k LMAO. What a joke. 30 million by 2010? That's funny.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19602752 Tue, 11 Dec 2007 10:16:39 EDT AT&T has big plans for U-Verse http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19602725 TKJunkMail : »ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5i1iU···8TFA50G0
AT&T Inc. on Tuesday raised its dividend 12.7 percent, announced a share buyback and set a long-term target for its TV service, which is delivered over phone lines, saying it will be available to 30 million customers by 2010.

AT&T expects to spend between $4.5 billion and $5 billion on U-verse through 2008.

Stephenson told analysts the new target includes customers in the Southeastern states formerly served by BellSouth Corp., which AT&T acquired late last year.

AT&T shares rose $2.10, or 5.5 percent, to $40 in morning trading Tuesday.
30 million homes passed by 2010. They have a long way to go to reach that. It will be hard for them to reach that number. They only have 126,000 U-verse customers right now.
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