Re: 1.2.3.... in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r19604288 en Wed, 09 Dec 2009 00:55:15 EDT Wed, 09 Dec 2009 00:55:15 EDT Re: 1.2.3.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19607158 toadlife : Thanks.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19607158 Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:50:50 EDT Re: 1.2.3.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19607067 anon :
said by toadlife See Profile :

Where is it? I've viewed various backbone maps over the years, and never seen *any* Cable company represented.
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You are aware that there is a Tier 1, "Settlement free" group of transit providers running backbones? And there are networks who buy transit from Tier 1 networks, but have other peering arrangements, which are called "Tier 2" networks? And everybody else buys transit from some other transit provider.

No cable company is a Tier 1 network; they don't trade packets ("Settlement free peering"), nor do they sell transit to other providers. They do have their own, internal backbones. It is entirely possible for a Comcast user to run on the Comcast network from coast to coast without traversing a Tier 1 "backbone" provider's network.
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said by bogey780 See Profile :

So you really have no legitimate comparison or experience with the service you're griping about as "slow".
Could you get U-verse installed at my address so I can test it? I didn't think so.
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said by bogey780 See Profile :

What's the speed of Comcast's backbone? Since you're so well informed.
They have been with the CRS-1 since Dec 2005:

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said by toadlife See Profile :

You do realize that Comcast doesn't actually own ANY of the internet backbone?

Comcast gets their connectivity from companies like AT&T, Verizon, and Level 3, just like everyone else.
Actually, Comcast has their own national backbone.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19602261 Tue, 11 Dec 2007 08:42:27 EDT Re: 1.2.3.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19601952 NormanS :
said by toadlife See Profile :

You do realize that Comcast doesn't actually own ANY of the internet backbone?
"C-Bone"? "I-Bone"? "T-Bone"? I've seen evidence that Comcast is building out their own national backbone.

Granted, they won't be selling transit to other services, and they aren't likely to be joining the nine "Settlement Free" Tier 1 networks.
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I laugh when people complain about not being fast enough.. I remember a time my company was paying $45,000.00 a month for 6 mbps service .. heck a T1 ran about $3500.00 a month with telco/data charges -- now it's $42.95 a month and the performance is about the same :-)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19601588 Tue, 11 Dec 2007 02:14:28 EDT Re: 1.2.3.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19599707 bogey780 : So you really have no legitimate comparison or experience with the service you're griping about as "slow". Nor are you familiar with AT&Ts architecture vs Comcast. Ok.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19599707 Mon, 10 Dec 2007 19:49:36 EDT Re: 1.2.3.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19599269 ib50MbSoon :
said by bogey780 See Profile :

What's the speed of Comcast's backbone? Since you're so well informed.
Don't know a thing about Comcast's infrastructure but I CAN tell you that my own internet connection runs from 12000 to 20000 down and 1000 to 3000 up....which is clearly twice as fast as uverse. Of course, since I live in one of T's redlined broadband dialup ghettos, I guess you could say that Comcast is virtually infinitely faster. :D
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Comcast gets their connectivity from companies like AT&T, Verizon, and Level 3, just like everyone else.
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And I don't know why this is front page material. I think T's "new" equipment was probably salvaged from a dumpster at one of Comcast's headends. :D
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