wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
join:2004-08-07
New York, NY
 ·Verizon FIOS
 ·Sprint Mobile Broa..
 ·RoadRunner Cable
 ·BroadVoice
| Its just as I have been saying all along.....
8.5 out of 10 people in the US are happy with their broadband speed. Thats not to say that we couldnt use more, but the simple fact remains that virtually nobody in this country is "demanding" 20+Mbps connections as many of the fanboys in this site proclaim in earnest every day. This is also another clear indication of why ATT's u-verse was deployed the way it was. Hopefully (but not likely) this will at least give us a few weeks reprieve from the overbearing lunatics on this site proclaiming that "America Sucks", and "Everyone needs 100Mbps connections for $10 per month"......
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chakey
Premium
join:2004-06-14
Gladstone, NJ
clubs:
·Verizon FIOS
| I have a 20/20 symmetrical Fios Connection. Do I NEED it? Of course not. Would it make a difference to me if I were a normal consumer whether I had a 5/1 connection or a 20/20 connection? No--I can name the number of websites capable of serving/receiving information that fast using the fingers on one hand.
However, power users exist. And until that changes, there will always be a need for more. It's a good thing. People wanting more creates the desire and the competition necessary to take technology to the next level. Otherwise, we'd all still have our 786 dsl connections from 1998. |
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wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
join:2004-08-07
New York, NY
·Verizon FIOS
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
·RoadRunner Cable
·BroadVoice
| said by chakey  :I have a 20/20 symmetrical Fios Connection. Do I NEED it? Of course not. Would it make a difference to me if I were a normal consumer whether I had a 5/1 connection or a 20/20 connection? No--I can name the number of websites capable of serving/receiving information that fast using the fingers on one hand. You are in the minority. I too would love a 20/20 connection (I cant get it however), and I too am in the minority. My point was that so many people get their panties bunched up insisting that everyone in this country is demanding 20/20, or even higher. This clearly isnt the case, and I am honestly shocked that DSLR printed something as subjective as that!
said by chakey :However, power users exist. And until that changes, there will always be a need for more. It's a good thing. People wanting more creates the desire and the competition necessary to take technology to the next level. Otherwise, we'd all still have our 786 dsl connections from 1998. You are correct that "power users" exist, however its more of an opportunity driven thing than anything else. If you or I lived in an area that only had ISDN, I can guarantee that we would have it. The other thing is that you mention 768k DSL as "1998". In reality (as I have also stated before), the 768k/128k DSL tiers (and now cable "lite" tiers) are the fastest growing on the market today. The reason is that for every "power user" such as yourself there are probably a few thousand (if not more) "regular" users who would rather pay less money to access the 'net.
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gaforces
United We Stand, Divided We Fall
join:2002-04-07
Santa Cruz, CA
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In order to compete in the "World Economy" which is being preached to us by these very corporations providing our services, we need to be faster than everyone else.
Your ""Everyone needs 100Mbps connections for $10 per month"......"
Doesnt cut it.
""Broadband penetration" is now treated as a key economic indicator."
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadband_···t_access
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‘Do ye, quieting in your bosoms your strong hearts,
Who of many good things have had your fill even to surfeit,
With what is moderate nourish your mighty desire; for neither will
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chakey
Premium
join:2004-06-14
Gladstone, NJ
clubs:
·Verizon FIOS
| reply to wifi4milez
You are correct--most people would be happy with a dial-up for $4.99/mo. I'm just glad there are people out there who like to scream for more. It means eventually higher speeds will trickle down to the rest of us.  |
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SkyBlue
join:2007-03-31
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said by wifi4milez :8.5 out of 10 people in the US are happy with their broadband speed. Thats not to say that we couldnt use more, but the simple fact remains that virtually nobody in this country is "demanding" 20+Mbps connections as many of the fanboys in this site proclaim in earnest every day. I am demanding lower triple play prices. The idea is to save money. This is all wrong. The math does not add up buy more and save. This is not the case.
RIP OFF!!! |
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mglunt
join:2001-09-10
Fredericksburg, VA
·Verizon FIOS
| reply to wifi4milez
What we really need is for Big Government to subsidize the broadband in this country. You see, that way, what it is actually costing people is hidden. Then you get the added benefit of forcing all the evil people making more money than you to help pay for your Internet! Its almost as beautiful as the Social Security tax... when you only see 7.5% taken from your check, but really it is costing you 15%.
We need more free stuff! Free broadband, free healthcare... it will be great! |
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cornelius785
join:2006-10-26
Worcester, MA
| reply to gaforces
i don't consider wikipedia a reliable source. the cites for that quote are also weak. all those 'cites' just compare broadband penetration and prices, barely (well, i didn't spot anything in a quick read) anything on how it (broadband penetration) correlates to economic standing of a country. all it is, is just another statistic that can be used to compare countries, just like anything else. |
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gaforces
United We Stand, Divided We Fall
join:2002-04-07
Santa Cruz, CA
1 edit | Consider that they can get things done faster than us, and cheaper.
In the 80's I worked for a company that sold PC computer systems to automotive companys to run thier business. A lot of companys still used old outdated, paper.
The companys that we installed systems were able to save 50% of labor cost of doing it the old way.
Just the Okidata printers alone ...  |
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bored_in_nh
join:2003-01-04
Stamping Ground, KY
·RoadRunner Cable
| If I have a 20MB FIOS connection, I'm only going to download the latest security update from Apple/Microsoft/Sun/HP/RedHat as fast as their servers can dish it out. What kind of "power user" has this magic wand that can clear data storms and packet loss, traffic shaping and node congestion to get their data delivered faster than I can on my 6mbps line? |
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CylonRed
Premium,MVM
join:2000-07-06
Bloom County | reply to wifi4milez
Don;t forget the TRILLIONS the US economy is missing out on due to 'slow' speeds and no research is being done on any high speed internet in the US as well... ') |
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JamesPC
join:2005-10-12
Orange, CA
| reply to wifi4milez
said by wifi4milez :8.5 out of 10 people in the US are happy with their broadband speed. Thats not to say that we couldnt use more, but the simple fact remains that virtually nobody in this country is "demanding" 20+Mbps connections as many of the fanboys in this site proclaim in earnest every day. This is also another clear indication of why ATT's u-verse was deployed the way it was. Hopefully (but not likely) this will at least give us a few weeks reprieve from the overbearing lunatics on this site proclaiming that "America Sucks", and "Everyone needs 100Mbps connections for $10 per month"...... |
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JamesPC
join:2005-10-12
Orange, CA
| reply to wifi4milez
said by wifi4milez :8.5 out of 10 people in the US are happy with their broadband speed. Thats not to say that we couldnt use more, but the simple fact remains that virtually nobody in this country is "demanding" 20+Mbps connections as many of the fanboys in this site proclaim in earnest every day. This is also another clear indication of why ATT's u-verse was deployed the way it was. Hopefully (but not likely) this will at least give us a few weeks reprieve from the overbearing lunatics on this site proclaiming that "America Sucks", and "Everyone needs 100Mbps connections for $10 per month"...... Totally AGREE! |
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jdjbuffalo
join:2004-01-17
Denver, CO
| reply to wifi4milez
The thing that you have to understand is that the people out on the edge demanding something better are the people who help move technology forward. You see this especially in the Gaming Industry with the top .5% - 1% of users who will go out and pay for the new $600+ graphics card. For regular users, if they wait a year then that graphics card (or one very similar) is available for $150 and is a step up from what was available last year at that same price point.
You see the same thing with the Internet. 8 years ago I was downloading videos from the internet when most people were still on dial-up. Nowadays, even my grandparents download videos and watch online streaming content from Youtube.
Without those people out on the edge pushing technology it will stagnate. |
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JamesPC
join:2005-10-12
Orange, CA
| reply to chakey
said by chakey :You are correct--most people would be happy with a dial-up for $4.99/mo. I'm just glad there are people out there who like to scream for more. It means eventually higher speeds will trickle down to the rest of us. Exactly, and thats how it works. The whole industry works on a trickle effect. Do you think the dual-core in my computer is here because consumers wanted it...NO! Big corporations needed the technology (much sooner than we did), so they put the millions down to get it done. Even as a power user myself and the other millions. We don't make it happen, we benefit from the availability of the technology. |
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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
Premium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK
 ·AT&T Yahoo
·AT&T DSL Service
·Cox HSI
·AT&T Southwest
| reply to wifi4milez
said by wifi4milez :8.5 out of 10 people in the US are happy with their broadband speed. Yes, when you ask the Boss, he agrees everyone is happy with his leadership.
Our broadband is slow. It's expensive. It's limited.
However, it beats dial-up. That's I think what the mean--- 85% are happy with the broadband speeds---- GIVEN THE ALTERNATIVE.
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