 | 95% way too low! Our mail scanners reject 80% of all connections to them due to the ip issues and then of the remaining 20% of the connections that we allow mail from, we trash more than 99% of the mail. We spend $$$$$ on anti-spam tools and huge amounts of time. I would love to be able to spend that money and time doing better things. |
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 NOYBSt. John 3.16Premium join:2005-12-15 Forest Grove, OR kudos:1 | This is what makes SPAM Internet Terrorism. It is an attack on the economics of the internet to reduce associated productivity gains, usefulness, and technology advancement.
The perpetrators should be classified as enemy combatants and water-boarded one second for every SPAM sent.
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 | I have been saying this for years. People want the spam problem to "go away" but it's not going to go away. I've been laughed at, had my ideas called stupid, impractical or outright foolish. Let's see what comments come this time:
Idea 1: Authenticate/challenge. Know those graphics characters you sometimes have to type in when you post? They're all wavey, tilted and twisted to keep computer software from recognizing them but they are recognizable by a human being. Having to enter 4 or 5 numbers each time you want to send a message would be a bit of an inconvenience, but I'm sure people would get used to it in time, and it only takes a second or two.
Idea 2: Email Address Verification/Authenticate/Challenge. Since most spam is sent from spoofed email addresses how about something like this?
Receiving server to sending server: I just got a message from "me@yourisp.com" do you have this email address? Sending server to receiving server: If Reply = "NO" Dump Message and all future messages from that address for one calendar month. This cuts down on server requests. This also gives the email address a chance to be used by someone real instead of a spambot. else Deliver Message. End If
Couple both ideas together and not only do you decrease the overall amount of bandwidth used by the internet, it makes it almost impossible for spam to get through since there are two tests that have to be passed.
My third and most unpopular idea was to whitelist your addressbook. Not in the addressbook? Message doesn't get delivered.
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 | I was told by our network people at my employer, that our spam filters dump about 95% of the e-mailing coming into our network, as it's defined as spam. It's gone before it gets into our e-mail boxes, or junk e-mail boxes. Obviously, some legitimate e-mail gets thrown out to. But this must be done, since our network, and our Exchange servers, can't support all this junk coming in. |
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 NOYBSt. John 3.16Premium join:2005-12-15 Forest Grove, OR kudos:1 3 edits | reply to DeeplyShrouded Well idea 1 definitely would not have any impact on SPAMMERS. SPAMMERS are operating/hosting their own relay/smtp servers on zombies.
First part of idea 2 (authentication) sounds like digital signature requirement. Which if implemented correctly could potentially have a huge impact.
Second part of idea 2 (relay to relay) address verification is already available in the smtp protocol, however since the receiving relay server is communicating with a SPAMMER operated system, probably a zombie, guess what the response is going to be.
Commend you for giving it some thought. Keep improving your email systems, SMTP protocol, relays and SPF, workings knowledge and maybe you will be the one to abolish SPAM some day.
The problem with address book white lists is that it does not actually prevent SPAM, just keeps it out of your inbox. Potentially wanted mail too.
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