OlivierDT
join:2006-11-12
Carignan | That's fast...
Another technology that we'll never see 
But damn... that's fast! |
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SkyBlue
join:2007-03-31
| said by OlivierDT  :Another technology that we'll never see But damn... that's fast! Yes it is fast and yet it is yet another great intervention that you can buy some day but won't do you any good unless your exchanging files between 2 computers in your own house.
Because the ISP's wont be offering speeds like that for quite some time for a reasonable rate.
So should they be spending time making things for the future or concentrating on making ISP's raise the bar, giving higher speeds to customers so they can take advantage of there high speed products.
Like 802.11 G standard or N standard who can really take advantage of those kinds of speeds?
Only a home network, you cant download 54mbs or 100mbs on the internet without paying an arm and a leg for a DS3 or OC3.
Whats the motivation. Just like saying buy cat 6 cable its faster than cat5 , but yet cat5 is more than you need its capable of 100mbs.
Whats the motivation?
Great ideas and nice to see technology.
But would be nicer to see providers catch up to it.
otherwise i am happy with a 802.11 B wireless device because that's about as fast as I can connect to the internet and B standard goes farther than G and is more reliable. |
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From the Pres
@pulselink.net
| It's not about connecting two PCs or forwarding data from your ISP. It's about networking the high-definition centric multimedia appliances around your home.
For example, wouldn't it be nice to eliminate the HDMI cable. Or, come out of the HDMI port on your new Blu-Ray or HD-DVD player and being able to enjoy that device from every single HDTV in your home without connecting any new wires between anything.
Today, you can network your PC's. Why not your DVD players, game consoles, High Definition TVs, and the rest? Wouldn't you like to connect those things, but get rid of the rat's nest of wires at the same time.
It takes about 20Mbps to network a High Definition 1080i stream, about 35Mbps at 1080p. If you want trick play (pause, fast forward, rewind), multiply those data rates by four. If you have several rooms and different people watching different programs in different rooms, the data rate requirement goes up from there.
It also takes guaranteed Quality of Service, otherwise our video image breaks up and the video is not synchronized with the Audio. WiFi, Ethernet, etc., do not offer guaranteed quality of service - that's the primary reason you don't use them for networking high quality video.
So, it isn't about your ISP and browsing the internet or checking emails. It's about your entertainment content service provider if you use a personal video recorder in the set top box and want to network your recorded content around the home. And, its about networking all of your DVD's, etc., so that content - protected or personal - located anywhere in your house can be accessed and enjoyed from any suitable HDTV in your house without you having to run new wires or move your appliances
Sound like you might want that? |
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needmorembps
@silkroadtech.com | reply to SkyBlue
Guess you have no use for file servers, media hubs etc.
I max out my 100mbs internal network daily.
Once I update the desktops I plan on going to 1000Mbps ethernet.
Having those speeds locally and being wireless would be awesome |
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SkyBlue
join:2007-03-31
| reply to From the Pres
said by From the Pres :
It's not about connecting two PCs or forwarding data from your ISP. It's about networking the high-definition centric multimedia appliances around your home.
For example, wouldn't it be nice to eliminate the HDMI cable. Or, come out of the HDMI port on your new Blu-Ray or HD-DVD player and being able to enjoy that device from every single HDTV in your home without connecting any new wires between anything.
Today, you can network your PC's. Why not your DVD players, game consoles, High Definition TVs, and the rest? Wouldn't you like to connect those things, but get rid of the rat's nest of wires at the same time.
It takes about 20Mbps to network a High Definition 1080i stream, about 35Mbps at 1080p. If you want trick play (pause, fast forward, rewind), multiply those data rates by four. If you have several rooms and different people watching different programs in different rooms, the data rate requirement goes up from there.
It also takes guaranteed Quality of Service, otherwise our video image breaks up and the video is not synchronized with the Audio. WiFi, Ethernet, etc., do not offer guaranteed quality of service - that's the primary reason you don't use them for networking high quality video.
So, it isn't about your ISP and browsing the internet or checking emails. It's about your entertainment content service provider if you use a personal video recorder in the set top box and want to network your recorded content around the home. And, its about networking all of your DVD's, etc., so that content - protected or personal - located anywhere in your house can be accessed and enjoyed from any suitable HDTV in your house without you having to run new wires or move your appliances
Sound like you might want that?
I am old school.
I like wires. Its reliable and clumsy.  |
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greendragon
Premium
join:2003-09-20
Stewartville, MN | reply to From the Pres
Hell yeah I want that!
If you need in home testing, let me know! |
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attsbcisgay
join:2003-03-18
Beverly Hills, CA | reply to OlivierDT
i no longer care about having anything faster
beside
tv, movies are useless imho...
we should use it for communication only  |
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djrobx
join:2000-05-31
Valencia, CA
 ·PHONE POWER
 ·AT&T U-Verse
·AT&T CallVantage
·Time Warner VOIP
 ·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to SkyBlue
Me too. I have yet to find anything wireless that's truly reliable. Wireless is really convenient but even the stuff I have that works best seems to suffer from some level of intermittent brain-fartiness.
Microsoft wireless keyboard and mouse? LOL. I have to have the receiver less than a foot away from the mouse. Even then I *still* get sporadic "Wireless signal quality is low" messages. The Bluetooth mouse on my mac pro seems to be a much better situation. In fact I think Bluetooth is the only wireless technology I've used that really works well in its specified signal range (although its not without its own share of issues).
Wifi networking. All the 802.11b gear I tried was a joke, always disconnecting and reconnecting. "g" gear seems to have improved the situation dramatiacally, but speeds are still about a third of what's advertised, and the connections suffer from latency spikes. When I've run into crap connections, bigger antennas rarely does any good. The only way for me to use my laptop comfortably was to move an access point into the same room.
In my theater room I had to buy a keyboard rated at 100 feet just to use it about 10 feet away. And even then the damn thing drops characters.
I tried a IOGear wireless "UWB" USB hub. The stupid thing didn't work just 6 feet away, line of sight. . I ended up returning it and purchasing a far more complex, far slower, but more functioning combination of a Belkin Network USB hub and a Buffalo router in client mode.
The thought of HDTV fed wirelessly gives me the hebejebes. With my luck, I can virtually guarantee it would intermittently stop and freeze. Not all the time, but just enough to remind me that wireless will never be as good as a hardwired connection. |
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jester121
join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL
 ·surpasshosting
·ViaTalk
| I think it's your aluminum foil hat.
Seriously, if you're having that much trouble with all these wireless devices in your house, it's your house. There's some flaky gear out there for sure, but there's also a lot that just plain works. |
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otishog
join:2007-11-09
Grand Prairie, TX
2 edits | reply to OlivierDT
Verizon Fios is surpassing those requirements to transfer video from stb to stb for the Multiroom dvr option, as well as providing video on demand on a wired network. With the multiroom option you can watch from three other stb and have the dvr record two things at once and be able to watch something you have previously recorded at the same time. Thats 6 things at one time the dvr is doing without missing a beat. Coming this next year High Definition will be part of the Multiroom option and of the Video on demand. Verizon is the leader in this technology. |
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otishog
join:2007-11-09
Grand Prairie, TX
1 edit | reply to OlivierDT
repeat, sorry. |
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Alphy
join:2001-12-31
Troy, MI | reply to From the Pres
You've got my vote. I'd buy it, provided it was a thoroughly tested product and received decent reviews. |
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