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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/548172"><b>foxsteve</b></A> : Sorry, I do not understand your message. Is it recommendation for me or you need copy of this kind of file?<br><br><i><b>Edit.</b> At each start of gmer.exe, WindowsUpdate.log is increased on 1210 bytes. I would like to ask, how GMER is related to WindowsUpdate.log?</i> ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1370700"><b>gmer</b></A> : @foxsteve<br><br>Please do not change anything on "Setting Tab" - it's not necessary to detect rootkits !<br><br>Just press "Scan" on Rootkit tab and when it ends use "Copy" or "Save..." button to save content as a text file. ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/548172"><b>foxsteve</b></A> : Thank you for your answer.<br>I have repeated test your program at unticked "Sections" option. Program was not collapsed as before at strange address 0x72013668, but I did not get any gmer.log file, although gmer.ini file was edited <br><textarea name="code" class="text" cols=50 rows=10>&#91;GMER&#93;&#012;Version=1.0.14&#012;LogFile=gmer.log&#012;&#91;AVScanner&#93;&#012;1=http://www.mks.com.pl/skaner/skaner.html&#012;2=http://arcaonline.arcabit.com/skaner.html&#012;3=http://www.kaspersky.pl/resources/virusscanner/kavwebscan.html&#012;4=http://www.kaspersky.com/downloads/kws/kavwebscan.html&#012;&#91;GMERSYS&#93;&#012;Process=1&#012;ProcessLog=1&#012;LogFile=gmer.log&#012;Driver=1&#012;DriverLog=1&#012;</textarea><!--end code block-->I hope my testing may help you in development of your important anti-rootkit program. ]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 03:40:00 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1370700"><b>gmer</b></A> : Hi Foxsteve, hi everyone<br><br>I see that new BETA of GMER doesn't work correctly on your machine . It's probably a bug in sections scan so I need to check this part of code . <br><br>If you would like to scan your computer with this version I can only suggest to untick "Sections" option on "Rootkit" tab and rescan again. I hope it helps.<br><br><b>@fcukdat</b><br>Thank you for keeping me informed .<br><br>Regards]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 13:21:46 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1162456"><b>fatdcuk</b></A> : Hi,<br><br>Well The Beta version has been stable for my research setup both in clean mode and hosed but that dose not mean that it will be stable on all setup's.<br><br>Still this tool is in Beta testing phase which is not a final release and i have relayed your bug report to the software author(GMER):)]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 13:17:12 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/548172"><b>foxsteve</b></A> : I followed your recommendation and downloaded gmer.exe file (753,664 bytes) from that link &raquo;<A HREF="http://www2.gmer.net/beta/" >www2.gmer.net/beta/</A>, then started that file and press "Scan". For security I tested that file under monitoring. Here is result.<br><br>On the first step program created 5 files: <br>  C:\Wimdows\gmer.exe (753664 bytes)<br>  C:\Windows\gmer.dll (811008 bytes)<br>  C:\Windows\gmer.ini (250 bytes)<br>  C:\Windows\gmer_uninstall.cmd (80 bytes)<br>  C:\Windows\system32\drivers\gmer.sys (85073 bytes)<br>and series of keys in the next Registry directories:<br>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Enum\Root\LEGACY_GMER<br>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\gmer<br>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\Root\LEGACY_GMER<br>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\gmer<br><br>On the second step program started scanning my system, but at scanning C:\Windows\system32\drivers\FILEM.SYS file, stopped with message as on the attached picture. <br><br>I pressed "OK" and program collapsed without any C:\Windows\gmer.log file.<br><br>What is your next recommendation?<br><br>PS. Here are codes gmer.ini and gmer_uninstall.cmd files<br><br>gmer.ini<br><textarea name="code" class="text" cols=50 rows=10>&#91;GMER&#93;&#012;Version=1.0.14&#012;&#91;AVScanner&#93;&#012;1=http://www.mks.com.pl/skaner/skaner.html&#012;2=http://arcaonline.arcabit.com/skaner.html&#012;3=http://www.kaspersky.pl/resources/virusscanner/kavwebscan.html&#012;4=http://www.kaspersky.com/downloads/kws/kavwebscan.html&#012;</textarea><!--end code block--><br>gmer_uninstall.cmd<br><textarea name="code" class="text" cols=50 rows=10>sc delete gmer&#012;del system32\drivers\gmer.sys&#012;del gmer.dll&#012;del gmer.exe&#012;pause&#012;</textarea><!--end code block--><div class="borderless"><TABLE WIDTH=95% align=center border=0 CELLPADDING=4"><TR><TD ALIGN=CENTER VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#000000 nwrap COLSPAN=3 WIDTH=100%><A HREF="/speak/slideshow/19662209?c=1254128&ret=L2ZvcnVtL3IxOTYyMTE2Mi54bWw%3D"><IMG class="apic" BORDER=0 TITLE="13878 bytes" WIDTH=600 HEIGHT=212 SRC="/r0/download/1254128.thumb600~e3126e3185bdefaf372f100c3be22aa3/error1.png/thumb.jpg" ALT="Click for full size"></A></TD></TABLE></div>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 02:57:10 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1346679"><b>AB</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Bubba17 <A HREF="/useremail/u/1395696"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  AB <A HREF="/useremail/u/1346679"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>I think I owe a debt of gratitude to SipSizurp's and the others' clients though, that shouldered the burden and helped to keep me in that other 75 or 80% percentile.<br>Whew! Close one!<br></div>You found something?</div>Nope. Not a thing.<br><br>This is why I'm in that 'other percentile'.  :)]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 22:20:02 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1395696"><b>Bubba17</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  AB <A HREF="/useremail/u/1346679"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>I think I owe a debt of gratitude to SipSizurp's and the others' clients though, that shouldered the burden and helped to keep me in that other 75 or 80% percentile.<br>Whew! Close one!<br></div>You found something?  And, successfully eradicated it?<br><br>You used RkU?  Did you try GMER?<br><small>--<br>HN7000s | Horizons 1 (127W) | Gateway: 1110Mhz | Dish: .98m 2 Watt | Pro+<br><br>"Fast is fine, but accuracy is everything" --Wyatt Earp</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 22:11:53 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1346679"><b>AB</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Bubba17 <A HREF="/useremail/u/1395696"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Notice ... I didn't announce I was clean.   :)</div>Yes, I notice that.<br>Well, allow me to announce-- my machine is clean!<br>Yeah, baby! Yee-haaa!<br><br>I think I owe a debt of gratitude to SipSizurp's and the others' clients though, that shouldered the burden and helped to keep me in that other 75 or 80% percentile.<br>Whew! Close one!<br><br>Thanks, gents!  :)]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:57:09 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1162456"><b>fatdcuk</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  foxsteve <A HREF="/useremail/u/548172"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>   :</small><br><br>Ok, thank you very much!<br>What do you know about new development with RkU?<br> </div>As far as i am aware RKU is no longer under public developement.As an ARK forensic tool it is becoming less effective than it once was.This has been highlighted by some of the recent ITW RK malware.IRC the latest DNS changer trojan RK is not detected by RKU nor is Nulprot so that is 2 for definite that the tool is confirmed as blind too but they will almost certainly be more out there ITW.<br><br>FWIW if ARK tools are not in constant state of developement like the rootkit malwares they are targeting then they are losing ground on effectiveness.The battle is ongoing between mal writers and the defenders,alas the defenders will always be playing catchup.<br><br>IMHO GMER has now superceded RKU as forensic tool as the best available samedrive tool.It has incorperated the best of IceSword and RKU functionability with a few added extra's thrown in.The problem then arises then with *ease of use/data returned* which is where GMER will fall down for most folks.<br><br>That said dose new GMER see them all....well there is a very high probability not,the battle still goes on!]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:46:51 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/548172"><b>foxsteve</b></A> : Ok, thank you very much!<br>What do you know about new development with RkU?]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 14:33:26 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/698374"><b>Elite</b></A> : Your machine is clean then.<br><small>--<br>QUAD!!!!</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 12:22:30 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1162456"><b>fatdcuk</b></A> : N/M]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/548172"><b>foxsteve</b></A> : According to Report, RkU did not find hidden processes, drivers or files.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/698374"><b>Elite</b></A> : Code hook is just Windows kernel splicing. No need to be alarmed.<br><br>As for SSDT, this could very well be Symantec hooking your SSDT.<br><br>Any hidden process, drivers, or files?<br><small>--<br>QUAD!!!!</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/548172"><b>foxsteve</b></A> : How to clean system if <br>- services are hooked by "Unknown module filename" and<br>- ntoskrnl.exe is hooked "Inline - Relative Jump"?<div class="borderless"><TABLE WIDTH=95% align=center border=0 CELLPADDING=4"><TR><TD ALIGN=CENTER VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#000000 nwrap COLSPAN=3 WIDTH=100%><A HREF="/speak/slideshow/19655623?c=1253695&ret=L2ZvcnVtL3IxOTYyMTE2Mi54bWw%3D"><IMG TITLE="30025 bytes" BORDER=0 WIDTH=577 HEIGHT=405 SRC="/r0/download/1253695~0a90432cb7f8a8c24d5c62486e766869/SSDT_Hooked12_19_07.png"></A></TD></TR><TR><TD ALIGN=CENTER VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#000000 nwrap COLSPAN=3 WIDTH=100%><A HREF="/speak/slideshow/19655623?c=1253696&ret=L2ZvcnVtL3IxOTYyMTE2Mi54bWw%3D"><IMG TITLE="3950 bytes" BORDER=0 WIDTH=513 HEIGHT=56 SRC="/r0/download/1253696~f4da5cdd3db404d9dfb1d2843a380f28/CodeHooks12-19-07.png"></A></TD></TABLE></div>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 02:11:11 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1306614"><b>SipSizzurp</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Elite <A HREF="/useremail/u/698374"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Probably a bunch of stupid mutexes to prevent deletion.</div>That's what I had figured since the file count was transient. I delivered it back into operation. The secretary was very delighted with the repair, and I am very delighted with my nice new shiny <b>nuclear bomb</b> ! Thanks again ! ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> : Thanks for the continued tests.  It pretty much reinforces what I was already assuming to be the case, just nice to have some third party confirmation.  :D]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 17:47:54 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1162456"><b>fatdcuk</b></A> : Here the next pair of ARK's tested versus the test malware rootkits.<br><br>Mcafee Rootkit Detective 1.1<br><br>Testset 1=  3/5*<br>*Both Rustock B and Runtime2 were flagged by their hidden registry values.Runtime 2 SSDT hooks also seen.<br><br>Blind to Srizbi and Nulprot.<br><br> <IMG SRC="http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/7352/mcaffeeme7.jpg"> <br><br>Testset2= 3/4*<br><br>*Rustock A only caught by hidden registry data.<br><br>Blind to Allinone.<br><br> <IMG SRC="http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/2927/mcafeebj8.jpg"> <br><br>F-Secure Blacklight Rootkit Eliminator<br><br>Testset1=3/5<br><br>Blind to Rustock B and Nulprot.<br><br> <IMG SRC="http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/4589/black1ft2.jpg"> <br><br>Testset2= 3/4<br><br>Blind to Rustock A<br><br> <IMG SRC="http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/958/black2sp7.jpg">  ]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:55:38 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/698374"><b>Elite</b></A> : Probably a bunch of stupid mutexes to prevent deletion.<br><br>Can't name any malware that can hold it's own against RkU though...<br><br>As long as there are no more hidden processes, hidden files, or SSDT hooks, the machine should be clean minus all the files it dumped on disk and all the crap it put in the registry.<br><small>--<br>QUAD!!!!</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 15:32:44 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1162456"><b>fatdcuk</b></A> : Here is the GMER 1.0.14 Beta link>>><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www2.gmer.net/beta/" >www2.gmer.net/beta/</A><br><br>I've been using the Beta version for around 4 weeks now and can safely say it is more stable for my setup and has gained some more functionability over the previous version:)]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 12:27:39 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1395696"><b>Bubba17</b></A> : Well, based on the test results you've shared (again, thanks), I obtained GMER 1.0.13 (wasn't able to obtain your beta version) and it's not finding anything.<br><br>Notice ... I didn't announce I was clean.   :)]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 12:03:01 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1306614"><b>SipSizzurp</b></A> : We kicked the sumbitche's ass. It was so brutal ! I'm all excited now. There are no more hooked processes or hidden files. The registry was loaded with about 80 entries. In addition to mssync20.* files, there were also mssync2020* files.<br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.sophos.com/security/analyses/trojldpinclz.html" >www.sophos.com/security/analyses&middot;&middot;&middot;clz.html</A><br><br>I still cannot start in safe mode even after running SFC. Maybe there is some other stuff still in here. I'll give sophos security program a run and see if it can find the rest of what Exaspery was so oblivious to. You saved me and the customer a huge amount of work ! Thank you ! You have a very appropriate screen name Mr. Elite ! <br><br>Edit - I forgot to mention that it found and deleted only 8 files, not the 12 that had been found on earlier scans. My initial scan with AVG only found 5 files. After I tried to delete them then the beast generated the additional 7.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/698374"><b>Elite</b></A> : P.S. This rootkit has a keylogger payload.<br><br>Change all your passwords after we yank it.<br><small>--<br>QUAD!!!!</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/698374"><b>Elite</b></A> : This is going to be really easy...<br><br>Go to the "Processes" tab in RkU.<br><br>Find "mssync20.exe".<br><br>Right click, "Kill Process".<br><br>Click the scan button in the "Processes" tab again. If the process came back, use "Force Kill" instead.<br><br>Go to the "Files" tab. Scan, it'll find 12 hidden files.<br><br>For each of the 12 files, right click and "Wipe File".<br><br>Reboot, re-open RkU and post another log.<br><small>--<br>QUAD!!!!</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 03:13:47 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1306614"><b>SipSizzurp</b></A> : OK, SSDT finds 8 hooked instances of "Big Worm". File scan finds 12 files. There are no VM found. I found no option to delete the infected files. If I un-hook what SSDT detected, then the file scanner finds no files. Sorry for posting these long reports. I'll start reading the manual to see what else I can find out.<br><br><b>SSDT ;</b><br><br>RkUnhooker report generator v0.7<br>==============================================<br>Rootkit Unhooker kernel version: 3.7.300.509<br>==============================================<br>Windows Major Version: 5<br>Windows Minor Version: 1<br>Windows Build Number: 2600<br>==============================================<br>NtCreateFile<br>Actual Address 0xBAD48B8E<br>Hooked by: C:\WINDOWS\system32\mssync20.sys<br><br>NtCreateKey<br>Actual Address 0xBAD48D48<br>Hooked by: C:\WINDOWS\system32\mssync20.sys<br><br>NtEnumerateKey<br>Actual Address 0xBAD48C3A<br>Hooked by: C:\WINDOWS\system32\mssync20.sys<br><br>NtEnumerateValueKey<br>Actual Address 0xBAD48CC4<br>Hooked by: C:\WINDOWS\system32\mssync20.sys<br><br>NtOpenFile<br>Actual Address 0xBAD48BEC<br>Hooked by: C:\WINDOWS\system32\mssync20.sys<br><br>NtOpenKey<br>Actual Address 0xBAD48D9A<br>Hooked by: C:\WINDOWS\system32\mssync20.sys<br><br>NtQueryDirectoryFile<br>Actual Address 0xBAD48A82<br>Hooked by: C:\WINDOWS\system32\mssync20.sys<br><br>NtQuerySystemInformation<br>Actual Address 0xBAD48DDE<br>Hooked by: C:\WINDOWS\system32\mssync20.sys<br><br><b>Files ;</b><br><br>Suspect File: C:\Documents and Settings\Cindy\Local Settings\Temp\mssync20.tlb Status: Hidden<br><br>Suspect File: C:\mssync20.ex_ Status: Hidden<br><br>Suspect File: C:\WINDOWS\system32\mssync20.dl$ Status: Hidden<br><br>Suspect File: C:\WINDOWS\system32\mssync20.dll Status: Hidden<br><br>Suspect File: C:\WINDOWS\system32\mssync20.dl_ Status: Hidden<br><br>Suspect File: C:\WINDOWS\system32\mssync20.exe Status: Hidden<br><br>Suspect File: C:\WINDOWS\system32\mssync20.sy$ Status: Hidden<br><br>Suspect File: C:\WINDOWS\system32\mssync20.sys Status: Hidden<br><br>Suspect File: C:\WINDOWS\system32\mssync20.sy_ Status: Hidden<br><br>Suspect File: C:\WINDOWS\system32\mssync20.tl$ Status: Hidden<br><br>Suspect File: C:\WINDOWS\system32\mssync20.tlb Status: Hidden<br><br>Suspect File: C:\WINDOWS\system32\mssync20.tl_ Status: Hidden<br><br><b>Code Hooks ;</b><br><br>ntkrnlpa.exe+0x00069C2A, Type: Inline - RelativeJump at address 0x80540C2A hook handler located in [ntkrnlpa.exe]<br><br><b>Processes ; </b><br>(I'm only posting the hidden one)<br><br><b>!!!!!!!!!!!Hidden process: C:\WINDOWS\system32\mssync20.exe<br>Process Id: 2008<br>EPROCESS Address: 0x849CB4F0</b>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1306614"><b>SipSizzurp</b></A> : Thanks a million. The download is crawling very slow. I'll let you know how it goes  :)<br><br>Edit - I found a fast download site with lots of mirrors. <br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.onlinedown.com/detail/12679.htm" >www.onlinedown.com/detail/12679.htm</A><br><br>With this MD5<br><br>ac348df64baf41dd219234b746242bf5]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/698374"><b>Elite</b></A> : Yeah, their site went down.<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://zj.newhua.com/down/RkU3.7.300.509.zip" >zj.newhua.com/down/RkU3.7.300.509.zip</A><br><small>--<br>QUAD!!!!</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1306614"><b>SipSizzurp</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Elite <A HREF="/useremail/u/698374"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Get RkU, erase process VM, wipe all hidden files, reboot.<br> </div>I've been Googling for it for half an hour. All I seem to find is a russian site with a 404 error where the file link should be.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/698374"><b>Elite</b></A> : I'm not familiar with that particular infection, but it looks weak.<br><br>Get RkU, erase process VM, wipe all hidden files, reboot.<br><small>--<br>QUAD!!!!</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1306614"><b>SipSizzurp</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by youveshutmedown :</small><br><br>Which is why it would be nice to have a back-to-back real world comparison.  :D<br> </div>I picked up a sick one yesterday. I have not had many kits lately, so I'm not up to date on the newest tools. This PC became infected while using Exaspery 7 with web and e-mail scan set to delete anything bad with out asking. It got kitted anyway, and then Exaspery finds the root kit infection and said to scan in safe mode to repair. Safe mode gets up to about 10 files while loading and the pc reboots. I downloaded AVG antikit and Blacklight. AVG deletes all infected files, and then they all come back immediately, with even more files. Blacklight did not find as many files as AVG, but has the same results. This previx program found 1 file and wanted a license key to fix it. Here are some screenies. I'm gonna try some of the other tools mentioned here, and am open for suggestions other than DBAN (which I think is coming soon, oh, and Exaspery is gone now too ! )  :D<div class="borderless"><TABLE WIDTH=95% align=center border=0 CELLPADDING=4"><TR><TD ALIGN=CENTER VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#000000 nwrap COLSPAN=3 WIDTH=100%><A HREF="/speak/slideshow/19648915?c=1253301&ret=L2ZvcnVtL3IxOTYyMTE2Mi54bWw%3D"><IMG TITLE="68754 bytes" BORDER=0 WIDTH=536 HEIGHT=426 SRC="/r0/download/1253301~6ae1ca1eba0c68494fcb253238463ec6/ScreenShot001.jpg"></A></TD></TR><TR><TD ALIGN=CENTER VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#000000 nwrap COLSPAN=3 WIDTH=100%><A HREF="/speak/slideshow/19648915?c=1253302&ret=L2ZvcnVtL3IxOTYyMTE2Mi54bWw%3D"><IMG class="apic" BORDER=0 TITLE="142325 bytes" WIDTH=600 HEIGHT=584 SRC="/r0/download/1253302.thumb600~08c5d2ea6acdf96e72e2ab2114a4f29b/ScreenShot002.jpg/thumb.jpg" ALT="Click for full size"></A></TD></TR><TR><TD ALIGN=CENTER VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#000000 nwrap COLSPAN=3 WIDTH=100%><A HREF="/speak/slideshow/19648915?c=1253303&ret=L2ZvcnVtL3IxOTYyMTE2Mi54bWw%3D"><IMG class="apic" BORDER=0 TITLE="161680 bytes" WIDTH=600 HEIGHT=514 SRC="/r0/download/1253303.thumb600~a189499966e6d1a01e3141dfd87ac13a/ScreenShot003.jpg/thumb.jpg" ALT="Click for full size"></A></TD></TABLE></div>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 00:44:41 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/698374"><b>Elite</b></A> : NOD32 has poor rootkit detection. Limited to usermode at most.<br><small>--<br>QUAD!!!!</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/649164"><b>spy1</b></A> : RKR - IceSword - BlackLight (although I admit that with IceSword, a bad result would have to jump off the screen and bitchslap me before I'd recognize it for what it was...).<br><br>I would think that my AV (NOD32) would also be doing its' very best to prevent me from ever getting root-kitted to start with, but as far as detection of a pre-existing one....I really don't know. Pete]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1162456"><b>fatdcuk</b></A> : Oh brother is this going to be a bag of fun :)<br><br>Both Rootkit Revealer and Blacklight BSoD'ed when executed versus testbed 1.Gees i had been spoilt so far for lack of fatals on Sunday :)<br><br>This will take longer then first planned as I now have to break the test group down into individual RK's versus software/scantimes if BSoD's occur :(<br><br>For the test's sake BSoD's don't count as positive detections.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Elite <A HREF="/useremail/u/698374"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Oh poor F-Secure...<br><br>I don't think the results are going to be that great. LOL.<br> </div>Which is why it would be nice to have a back-to-back real world comparison.  :D]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/698374"><b>Elite</b></A> : Oh poor F-Secure...<br><br>I don't think the results are going to be that great. LOL.<br><small>--<br>QUAD!!!!</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> : Just for kicks and giggles, how does F-Secure's blacklight app perform against your zoo?  <br><br>You can grab it here:<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.f-secure.com/security_center/" >www.f-secure.com/security_center/</A><br><br>Download link near the bottom]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/879997"><b>dadkins</b></A> : The Prevx linked in this thread...<br>AVG AR<br>Blacklight<br>McAfee AR<br>RKR<br>Sophos AR<br><br>... just for starters.<br>It's an odd hobby of mine.   :hmm:<br><small>--<br>Think outside the Fox... <A HREF="http://www.opera.com/">Opera</a></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1162456"><b>fatdcuk</b></A> : <div class="bquote">I'm clean. :D</div>Ok i have a question to folks that have as like above for example posted that they are all clean....<br><br>There is very high odds you are not infected with malware rootkit(s) but what i would like to know based on all these all clean posts is what tools or methods you have used to confirm this to be the case beyond doubt ?<br><br>BTW if anyone would like to have their chosen ARK tools(same drive) versus my Zoo collection i would be happy to return data as long as it dose'nt cost me for the priviledge :)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/706636"><b>Theomega</b></A> : Thanks for making me aware of this. I'm clean.  :D]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1395696"><b>Bubba17</b></A> : Thanks, swhx7 (and to you fcukdat and Elite also!)<br><br>Very much appreciate you all.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1376598"><b>swhx7</b></A> : Although you were replying to someone else...<br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  Bubba17 <A HREF="/useremail/u/1395696"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Obviously, too, there must be something inherently difficult associated with anti that I don't understand, else, I would think, some security company would have already created "the" (if not one of "the") program(s) that could reliably, definitively, perform anti while being "user friendly". </div><br>Some of them are very good. The problem is that malware authors - and especially rootkit authors - are constantly coming up with new techniques. Among other things, they examine all the detection software and code specifically to evade them.<br><br>So you always have to have the latest, and it still may not be enough. What's more important is not allowing the opportunity for infection in the first place.<br><br>User-friendliness is a different issue.<br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  Bubba17 <A HREF="/useremail/u/1395696"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>As for "really need to know what you're looking for" ... do you have a couple of links you might share where one could attempt rootkit self education, for dummies, like myself?  Or, is knowing what to look for beyond the average users ability? </div>&raquo;<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rootkit" >en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rootkit</A> has general info.  rootkit.com is an in-depth source, but you have to be a programmer to follow much of it.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1162456"><b>fatdcuk</b></A> : Sorry for the delay folks but as promised yesterday here is are the screenshots/data returned from testing some of the tools mentioned in this thread versus samples from my Zoo collection.<br><br>All RK malwares used have been harvested from in the wild infections over the last 18months and there are no proof-of-concept RK's used.These are live malware rootkits ;)<br><br>Testbed1(loaded malware RK's)<br>1)Rustock B (huy32.sys)<br>2)Nulprot  (asc3550.sys+asc3550p.sys)*<br>3)Haxdoor  (ntio256.sys+protector.exe)<br>4)Srizbi   (Eyvw95.sys)<br>5)Cutwail/Bulknet (Runtime2.sys)**<br><br>*Imports a secondary infection from the WWW that is not hidden.<br>**Drops other files after installation that are not hidden.<br><br>Prev-X CSI= 4/5  Is blind to Nulprot.<br> <IMG SRC="http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/1880/prevx1bz8.jpg"> <br> <IMG SRC="http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/4369/prex1awa0.jpg"> <br><br>AVG AntiRootKit= 4/5 Is blind to Nulprot.<br> <IMG SRC="http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/3213/avg1rn8.png"> <br><br>RKU= 4/5 Is blind to Nulprot.<br> <IMG SRC="http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/9868/rku1tv4.jpg"> <br><br>GMER 1.0.14 Beta= 5/5 :D<br> <IMG SRC="http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/6918/gmer1xo9.jpg"> <br><br>Nulprot VT upload today>>><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.virustotal.com/resultado.html?7a22c7ba892614f521c7a3357b697495" >www.virustotal.com/resultado.htm&middot;&middot;&middot;7b697495</A><br><br>Testbed2(loaded malware RK's)<br>1)Rustock A (lzx32.sys)<br>2)Wincom32 (Wincom32.sys)<br>3)TR.inject/allinone(VideoAti0.sys+dll+exe)<br>4)Haxdoor.sm(Pasksa.dll+p81eskse.sys)<br><br>Prev X CSI= 3/4   Blind to Allinone<br> <IMG SRC="http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/9028/prevx2hb2.jpg"> <br><br>AVG AntiRootKit= 4/4<br> <IMG SRC="http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/4162/avg2fc5.jpg"> <br><br>RKU =4/4<br> <IMG SRC="http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/9236/rkucq6.jpg"> <br><br>GMER 1.0.14Beta= 4/4<br> <IMG SRC="http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/6279/gmer2zv7.jpg"> <br><br>TR.Inject/Allinone VT report today>>><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.virustotal.com/resultado.html?b991964c682458221d065fbbf327bde6" >www.virustotal.com/resultado.htm&middot;&middot;&middot;f327bde6</A><br> ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/698374"><b>Elite</b></A> : Well, they're really not as bad as I've probably made them sound.<br><br>For example, RkU is broken down into different tabs (SSDT hooks, Shadow SSDT hooks, ect). It's also got a pretty good manual as well, for help in understanding what everything does.<br><br>I'd say grab RkU and play with it (google for RkU 3.7.300.509) As long as you don't unhook anything, you shouldn't BSOD the machine. You can post any questions you have or just PM me.<br><small>--<br>QUAD!!!!</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1395696"><b>Bubba17</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Elite <A HREF="/useremail/u/698374"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>GMER and DarkSpy are both <b>very</b> reputable anti-rootkits.<br><br>IceSword is also very good.<br><br>However, none of these 3 anti-rootkits are very user-friendly. As with RkU, you really need to know what you're looking for.<br> </div>Ok.  But, you recognize the problem though (sigh).<br><br>As for "really need to know what you're looking for" ... do you have a couple of links you might share where one could attempt rootkit self education, for dummies, like myself?  Or, is knowing what to look for beyond the average users ability?<br><br>Obviously, too, there must be something inherently difficult associated with anti that I don't understand, else, I would think, some security company would have already created "the" (if not one of "the") program(s) that could reliably, definitively, perform anti while being "user friendly".<br><br>I'd certainly purchase such a program.<br><small>--<br>HN7000s | Horizons 1 (127W) | Gateway: 1110Mhz | Dish: .98m 2 Watt | Pro+<br><br>"Fast is fine, but accuracy is everything" --Wyatt Earp</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/829260"><b>IBK</b></A> : last time i was going to test prevx i fortunatly found out what data was submitted and how it was going to be used, and stopped immediatly testing it. Here an example of a scan of a (corrupted) adware sample i let scan half year ago for demo purpose:<br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://info.prevx.com/aboutprogramtext.asp?LANG=english&MID=cdd4512dd44d2a87871d423823c2abc5273b8329f39990a0cbb8d51720bedfd2&LIC=372B06FB-2D72-4C0D-8E0D-F1BE7DAB4BBD&PROFILE=PINNACLE&SV=16777503&AID=80272&CMD=appinfo&PX5=06bcda6e009f9cbe2a5302b8dbe6fb00b57b46e1" >info.prevx.com/aboutprogramtext.&middot;&middot;&middot;b57b46e1</A><br>as more users use prevx csi, as better it is for the prevx database. but i am not going to contribute to the database.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/698374"><b>Elite</b></A> : GMER and DarkSpy are both <b>very</b> reputable anti-rootkits.<br><br>IceSword is also very good.<br><br>However, none of these 3 anti-rootkits are very user-friendly. As with RkU, you really need to know what you're looking for.<br><small>--<br>QUAD!!!!</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1376598"><b>swhx7</b></A> : This brought up nothing on my XP box. That one is mainly for audio/video and rarely goes online, but it's the "experimental" system where I try out all kinds of software.<br><br>Does it bother anyone else that to check for rootkits on Windows, you have to download a closed-source binary, logon as Administrator and let it exchange who-knows-what with a remote server?<br><br>I suppose prevx is a reputable company, but that would be against security policy on my main workhorse pc.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1395696"><b>Bubba17</b></A> : And, another thing .. a google of "anti rootkit" brings up lot's of offerings, including one's that, for all I know, might be rootkits masquerading as anti.<br><br>Like "GMER", which includes the blurb, "all your rootkits are belong to us".  Uh huh, ok, sure they do.<br><br>Like "DarkSpy", which mentions China numerous places.  I'm currently unhappy with China.  Is this a trusted anti?<br><br>Just for instance.<br><br>edit: spelling]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1395696"><b>Bubba17</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  fatdcuk <A HREF="/useremail/u/1162456"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>But still FWIW i have samples in the zoo such as Nulprot,TR-inject(Allinone)that bypass this tool and have other samples that bypass Kaspersky7 series the last time i tested it.<br></div>Here, KIS, with settings maxed and using the specific "rootkit" scan .. zip found.  It's never even generated a message of any kind, false positive, nothing.<br><br>Blackbird said it, "Granted, not all folks at all points are looking for rootkits with equal skill or focus - if at all."  Exactly.  And, in the whole malware arena, this stealth payload delivery technique is the single thing leaving me unsasafied .. am I "really" sure I'm clean?<br><br>I've tried RootkitRevealer and, uh .. it's output, for me, cannot be called user friendly.<br><br>I've tried PREVXCSI and, for whatever reason, it wasn't happy on my system.  It was early with it, maybe it would be happier now.  I might re-try this.<br><br>Based on Elite's, "but that's a bit too advanced for some" qualification of RkU .. I damn sure got no business messing with it.<br><br>So, I'm still looking for additional anti-rootkit tool(s) I can wear/depend upon .. increase my sasafaction.<br><br>What is thought of F-Secure's Blacklight?<br>Are AVG's and McAfee's tools, already mentioned here, considered strong??<br><br>Any others?<br><small>--<br>HN7000s | Horizons 1 (127W) | Gateway: 1110Mhz | Dish: .98m 2 Watt | Pro+<br><br>"Fast is fine, but accuracy is everything" --Wyatt Earp</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/986420"><b>Portmonkey</b></A> : McAfee's Virus Scan Plus claims that it "detects and kills rootkits and other malicious applications that hide from Windows and other anti-virus programs", and it works with Vista. When I was still using XP, I switched back and forth between a few different rootkit scanners, but now I'm hoping McAfee has that area covered. <br><small>--<br>Ninja of the Nasty</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1393092"><b>Sindows 7</b></A> :  :o]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1144666"><b>jabarnut</b></A> : "<i>This data is then sent to our Prevx Automated Malware Research Center where it is thoroughly checked and analyzed by our massively powerful servers</i>".<br><br>Wow!  :o<br>Had I known they had "massively powerful servers", I might have been tempted to try this a long time ago.<br><br>Now <i>that's</i> impressive!  <br><small>--<br>I had a life once.....now I have a Computer and a Modem.</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1384595"><b>ctrlaltdelet</b></A> : &raquo;<A HREF="http://info.prevx.com/csihelp.asp" >info.prevx.com/csihelp.asp</A><br><br>"When Prevx CSI scans your PC it builds a mini-database of forensic data for each file it wishes to check. This data is then sent to our Prevx Automated Malware Research Center where it is thoroughly checked and analyzed by our massively powerful servers. Because we are performing a very extensive analysis on our servers, we take most of the load off of your PC. The result is a scan that is fast, always up to date and much more effective than conventional approaches."]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/755055"><b>OZO</b></A> : Guys, have you noticed that Prevx sends a lot (and I mean, a lot) of encrypted data to one of its servers. Its done during the scan via multiple POST commands.<br><br>What it sends?<br><br>Is it only me?<br><small>--<br>Keep it simple, it'll become complex by itself...</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/627059"><b>clocks11</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  odreian615 <A HREF="/useremail/u/1315394"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>I use AVG Anti-Rootkit free<br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.grisoft.com/doc/products-avg-anti-rootkit-update-app-art/?ver=1.1.0.42" >www.grisoft.com/doc/products-avg&middot;&middot;&middot;1.1.0.42</A><br>works just fine IMO<br> </div>I use this also, but they have not updated this thing in a long time.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/698374"><b>Elite</b></A> : Just checked out the new version of CSI, looks like rootkit detection has been improved quite a bit.<br><br>Too bad my Rustock.B sample won't run on my quad core.<br><small>--<br>QUAD!!!!</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1162456"><b>fatdcuk</b></A> : They were from my zoo collection.PrevX CSI was installed/run after they were native and yep the results surprised me too :o<br><br>*I will post some support data/screenshots etc tomorrow when i have more time hopefully<br><br>But still FWIW i have samples in the zoo such as Nulprot,TR-inject(Allinone)that bypass this tool and have other samples that bypass Kaspersky7 series the last time i tested it.<br><br>So i still put may faith in forensic tools and slaving drives ;)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/649164"><b>spy1</b></A> : &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.prevx.com/" >www.prevx.com/</A> (Chose the "Free PC Check Now" button on that page).<br><br>If you DON'T want it to install and run resident in SYSTRAY, make sure you DECLINE that choice when it's offered. Pete]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1346679"><b>AB</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  lefty1 <A HREF="/useremail/u/710246"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>  :</small><br><br>While running SystInternals RootkitRevealer, it stops every minute or so and gives me an error message about only having partial compatibility with Vista.  Now why am I not surprised by that?<br> </div>The most recent version of RR seems to have been released on 11/1/2006-- prior to Vista.<br>Likely why.<br><br>*Edit- sp]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/698374"><b>Elite</b></A> : Hmmmm very interesting.<br><br>Was Prevx installed prior to the infections?<br><br>I installed my Rustock.B sample, confirmed the infection with RkU, then installed Prevx, updated it, and did a full system scan. I believe this was back in maybe August?<br><br>Prevx found NOTHING. I later tested it with Unreal.A as well, and got the same results.<br><br>I've spoken with a few of higher ups @ Prevx (like the guys who run their blog) and last I heard, their improved rootkit detection module was still in alpha stages.<br><small>--<br>QUAD!!!!</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/710246"><b>lefty1</b></A> : <div class="bquote">Anyway, is SysInternals RootkitRevealer sufficient, or should one be using more/different tools?</div>While running SystInternals RootkitRevealer, it stops every minute or so and gives me an error message about only having partial compatibility with Vista.  Now why am I not surprised by that?]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 14:22:23 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1346679"><b>AB</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  daveinpoway <A HREF="/useremail/u/1371265"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Remember that infection statistics from those of us in the know does not give the true picture, since many more PC's are owned by John and Jill (Clueless) Public. Given the fog in which many of these users operate, I have no doubt that many of their systems (quite possibly considerably more than 20%) have some sort of infection(s), and these folks would have no way of knowing what sort of "guests" have hitched a ride inside of their Windows installation, nor would they understand how to evict the "guests", even if they knew they were present. </div>The so-called "news story" didn't say a word about '20% of all clueless user computers', that I saw.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1018019"><b>pog</b></A> : Add my PC to their list of infected:<br>[att=1]<br>As I am fairly certain this is a false positive, I wonder just how inflated Prevx's numbers are over all.<br><small>--<br><A HREF="http://gopog.net/">My Site</a></small><div class="borderless"><TABLE WIDTH=95% align=center border=0 CELLPADDING=4"><TR><TD ALIGN=CENTER VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#000000 nwrap COLSPAN=3 WIDTH=100%><A HREF="/speak/slideshow/19628349?c=1251909&ret=L2ZvcnVtL3IxOTYyMTE2Mi54bWw%3D"><IMG class="apic" BORDER=0 TITLE="30200 bytes" WIDTH=600 HEIGHT=410 SRC="/r0/download/1251909.thumb600~56900b4d0680a8284f3521cae23cd1ec/2007-12-15_081736.png/thumb.jpg" ALT="Click for full size"></A></TD></TABLE></div>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1384595"><b>ctrlaltdelet</b></A> : &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.prweb.com/releases/rootkits/prevxcsi/prweb576142.htm" >www.prweb.com/releases/rootkits/&middot;&middot;&middot;6142.htm</A><br><br>.....The result of these changes has been an increase in the number of PCs seen to have one or more active spyware, malware <b>or</b> rootkit programs running on them - from 15.6 percent or 1 in 6 during October 2007, to 22 percent or more than 1 in 5 today......]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/228189"><b>tomnvik</b></A> : Nothing here.<div class="borderless"><TABLE WIDTH=95% align=center border=0 CELLPADDING=4"><TR><TD ALIGN=CENTER VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#000000 nwrap COLSPAN=3 WIDTH=100%><A HREF="/speak/slideshow/19627483?c=1251843&ret=L2ZvcnVtL3IxOTYyMTE2Mi54bWw%3D"><IMG class="apic" BORDER=0 TITLE="334995 bytes" WIDTH=600 HEIGHT=450 SRC="/r0/download/1251843.thumb600~0903ab4373a3f12d99841a4f3aeb589e/KAV Rootkit Scan.jpg/thumb.jpg" ALT="Click for full size"></A></TD></TABLE></div>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/472725"><b>luddite</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  ZZZZZZZ <A HREF="/useremail/u/398001"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>..........a popup says that there is a malicious entry in the hosts file and that it can't start until it's deleted and then it gives you a choice to delete it,but doesn't show you the actual entry?<br> </div>Just ran this and encountered the same thing.  It deleted <b>everything</b> in my HOSTS file and left a single line:<br>127.0.0.1&#9;localhost <br><br>It didn't find any infections scanning it with my original HOSTS file in place or it's 'improved' version of the same.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1315394"><b>odreian615</b></A> : I use AVG Anti-Rootkit free<br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.grisoft.com/doc/products-avg-anti-rootkit-update-app-art/?ver=1.1.0.42" >www.grisoft.com/doc/products-avg&middot;&middot;&middot;1.1.0.42</A><br>works just fine IMO]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/615773"><b>hpguru</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Elite <A HREF="/useremail/u/698374"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>RkU, but that's a bit too advanced for some.<br> </div>Isn't Rku the brainchild of rootkit authors? :huh:<br><small>--<br><b><A HREF="http://www.dotsub.com/films/wasjesus/index.php">Jesus Christ, the Queen of Queens??</a></b></small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 08:48:24 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1162456"><b>fatdcuk</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Elite <A HREF="/useremail/u/698374"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>   :</small><br><br>Prevx CSI and the their full-blown HIPS both have shitty rootkit detection.<br><br>I don't know if CSI any any at all, actually.<br><br>Full product has very weak detection.<br> </div>I will have to differ just this once.<br><br>I loaded up during multiple sessions Rustock A,B<br>Runtime2(Cutwail/bulknet),Srizbi,Haxdoor(Poof),Haxdoor.sm<br><br>and was plesently surprised when it caught them all at one level or another.So it has quite a healthy scope IMO,it also caught RKU covert system file(Hidden service) and flagged it as bad but then again we know its not bad its just its self-defence/operational module at play.<br><br>That said as with all it is not 100% because as proved when Nulprot(Saturn) went completely undetected.The pending file rename trick fooled it as with many others;)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/847226"><b>whocares</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  spy1 <A HREF="/useremail/u/649164"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Well, if nothing else, at least PrevX CSI agrees with everything <i>else</i> I have here that checks for rootkits. Pete<br> </div>so PLZ someone WHERE can i d/l this "NEW",(to me) help/detection tool tool for my pc?<br><br><b>IS IT CALLED</b><br>PREVXCS1 1 as in #1<br>or<br><br>PREVXCSI I as in i<br><br>              jazzy<br><small>--<br>SOME know how listen to both sides of an issue & discuss it,<br>OTHERS have a closed mind & only know how to criticize.<br></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1371265"><b>daveinpoway</b></A> : Remember that infection statistics from those of us in the know does not give the true picture, since many more PC's are owned by John and Jill (Clueless) Public. Given the fog in which many of these users operate, I have no doubt that many of their systems (quite possibly considerably more than 20%) have some sort of infection(s), and these folks would have no way of knowing what sort of "guests" have hitched a ride inside of their Windows installation, nor would they understand how to evict the "guests", even if they knew they were present.  ]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 06:12:58 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/698374"><b>Elite</b></A> : RkU, but that's a bit too advanced for some.<br><small>--<br>QUAD!!!!</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 01:42:21 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/879997"><b>dadkins</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Elite <A HREF="/useremail/u/698374"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Prevx CSI and the their full-blown HIPS both have shitty rootkit detection.<br><br>I don't know if CSI any any at all, actually.<br><br>Full product has very weak detection.<br> </div>Ok, what scanner do you like?<br><small>--<br>Think outside the Fox... <A HREF="http://www.opera.com/">Opera</a></small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 01:20:23 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/698374"><b>Elite</b></A> : Prevx CSI and the their full-blown HIPS both have shitty rootkit detection.<br><br>I don't know if CSI any any at all, actually.<br><br>Full product has very weak detection.<br><small>--<br>QUAD!!!!</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 00:45:37 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1140294"><b>Blackbird</b></A> : Hmm... if we add up all the stats (1 of 5 with rootkits, 1 of 6 with malware, 1 of 4 with bots, and so on), it won't be long before we reach a point very much like  qrkx <A HREF="/useremail/u/804362"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> observed above when 9 out of 7 computers will have been infiltrated and infected in one way or another. It has been said: <i> "Statistics - the last resort of scoundrels." </i><br><small>--<br>If God wanted us to work with electrons, He'd make them big enough to see...</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 00:28:30 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/465004"><b>ironwalker</b></A> :  <blockquote><small>quote:</small><hr>25% of all computers in this world are not bots,<hr></blockquote><br><br>Maybe not now, but, trust me, a few years ago I would have agreed with that statement whoever said it.I still say it's close.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 23:39:53 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/356416"><b>Link Logger</b></A> : These guys are becoming the new KINGS of FUD, and once a month they issue more FUD, anyone remember this thread &raquo;<A HREF="/forum/r19385837-One-in-Six-PCs-Could-Be-Infected-With-Malware">One in Six PC's Could Be Infected With Malware</A> from last month which featured Prevx in Network World magazine and so now we have had an infection increase of 4% in the space of one month in number of infected systems (even worse, infected with rootkits) featured in another article with Prevx and PC World.  Wonder which magazine will feature them next month?<br><br>OK anyone found a root kit on their system yet, as I suspect all those root kits are on someone else's systems.  I not trying to say all is safe and good in the world, but these guys are becoming FUD hypsters IMHO and have lost all creditability in my book.<br><br>Blake<br><small>--<br>Vendor: Author of <A HREF="http://www.linklogger.com">Link Logger</a> which is a traffic analysis and firewall logging tool</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 23:39:18 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1346679"><b>AB</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Blackbird <A HREF="/useremail/u/1140294"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Well, if one were to take the 1-in-5 rootkit infection stats at face value, one would naturally expect that infection rate to carry through pretty much across the spectrum. So are we seeing rootkits at that level across the board... in repair shops, at the consultant/guru level, at corporate IT departments, amongst home users, etc, etc?</div>No. Just like 25% of all computers in this world are not bots, as Vint Cerf suggested a while back.<br><br>But once again-- an A/V vendor saying 'just be careful and use some common sense' doesn't sell much product, does it?]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 23:10:41 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/879997"><b>dadkins</b></A> : As expected...  ;)<div class="borderless"><TABLE WIDTH=95% align=center border=0 CELLPADDING=4"><TR><TD ALIGN=CENTER VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#000000 nwrap COLSPAN=3 WIDTH=100%><A HREF="/speak/slideshow/19625826?c=1251723&ret=L2ZvcnVtL3IxOTYyMTE2Mi54bWw%3D"><IMG class="apic" BORDER=0 TITLE="152833 bytes" WIDTH=600 HEIGHT=410 SRC="/r0/download/1251723.thumb600~fb6ebdf736f08bad611bc256c6053f1b/SNAG-0017.jpg/thumb.jpg" ALT="Click for full size"></A></TD></TABLE></div>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:49:29 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1360717"><b>Qwerky</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  qrkx <A HREF="/useremail/u/804362"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Well - nine out of seven dentists believe scotch is better than Novocain.</div>And five out of four people have trouble with fractions.<br><br>But three out of five people, aren't the other two.<br><br>Anyway, is SysInternals RootkitRevealer sufficient, or should one be using more/different tools?<br><small>--<br>Mr. Qwerky - The Lone Stranger<br>Hi-Ho Tinfoil, Away!<br></small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:21:41 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1140294"><b>Blackbird</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  qrkx <A HREF="/useremail/u/804362"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>...I thought it is agreed upon the fact that once root-ed zee boxen needs to be incinerated. ...<br> </div> Nah... just the hard-drives and firmware flash chips. And in those rare instances of really pesky rootkits, the metal chassis may have to be scrubbed and rinsed thoroughly... or better still, repainted.<br><small>--<br>If God wanted us to work with electrons, He'd make them big enough to see...</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 18:16:34 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/804362"><b>qrkx</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Blackbird <A HREF="/useremail/u/1140294"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>To clarify: I'm not accusing them. It's just that when you make, sell, and use hammers intensively, everything can start to look like a nail.<br> </div>Well - nine out of seven dentists believe scotch is better than Novocain.<br><br>I thought it is agreed upon the fact that once root-ed zee boxen needs to be incinerated.<br><br>What I find amusing is that by the very attempt of hiding their presence, rootkits give themselves away. What if rootkits stop hooking enumerating&query API's and just operate in your face? Are we back to file signatures?<br><br>rgds.<br><br> ]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 18:06:18 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1140294"><b>Blackbird</b></A> : Well, if one were to take the 1-in-5 rootkit infection stats at face value, one would naturally expect that infection rate to carry through pretty much across the spectrum. So are we seeing rootkits at that level across the board... in repair shops, at the consultant/guru level, at corporate IT departments, amongst home users, etc, etc?<br><br>Granted, not all folks at all points are looking for rootkits with equal skill or focus - if at all. But still... seems to me, confirmed rootkit infections should be bubbling up in far greater numbers amongst these forum threads than what I'm personally observing. I find it curiously coincidental that Prevx, whose products are aimed at rootkits (among other things) is the one reporting these stats. To clarify: I'm not accusing them. It's just that when you make, sell, and use hammers intensively, everything can start to look like a nail.<br><small>--<br>If God wanted us to work with electrons, He'd make them big enough to see...</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:50:03 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/398001"><b>ZZZZZZZ</b></A> : Prevx is one of a few I use,but my only gripe about it is that everytime I use it..........a popup says that there is a malicious entry in the hosts file and that it can't start until it's deleted and then it gives you a choice to delete it,but doesn't show you the actual entry?<br><br>And I'm positive my hosts file hasn't been compromised?<br><small>--<br><b>~~Get our troops home...now!!~~</b></small><div class="borderless"><TABLE WIDTH=95% align=center border=0 CELLPADDING=4"><TR><TD ALIGN=CENTER VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#000000 nwrap COLSPAN=3 WIDTH=100%><A HREF="/speak/slideshow/19624106?c=1251629&ret=L2ZvcnVtL3IxOTYyMTE2Mi54bWw%3D"><IMG class="apic" BORDER=0 TITLE="86023 bytes" WIDTH=600 HEIGHT=221 SRC="/r0/download/1251629.thumb600~e3c2b70e75b86971b768623934a8fe2d/Clipboard01.jpg/thumb.jpg" ALT="Click for full size"></A></TD></TABLE></div>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:36:54 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/819609"><b>Grail Knight</b></A> : Ditto.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 10:36:27 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/649164"><b>spy1</b></A> : Well, if nothing else, at least PrevX CSI agrees with everything <i>else</i> I have here that checks for rootkits. Pete<div class="borderless"><TABLE WIDTH=95% align=center border=0 CELLPADDING=4"><TR><TD ALIGN=CENTER VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#000000 nwrap COLSPAN=3 WIDTH=100%><A HREF="/speak/slideshow/19621810?c=1251520&ret=L2ZvcnVtL3IxOTYyMTE2Mi54bWw%3D"><IMG class="apic" BORDER=0 TITLE="34652 bytes" WIDTH=600 HEIGHT=415 SRC="/r0/download/1251520.thumb600~5cd2d70433a59b677d35936ff5ddb461/MWSnap014 2007-12-14, 10_07_25.jpg/thumb.jpg" ALT="Click for full size"></A></TD></TABLE></div>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 10:18:07 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1371265"><b>daveinpoway</b></A> : Read about it here: &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,140538/article.html?tk=nl_dnxnws" >www.pcworld.com/article/id,14053&middot;&middot;&middot;l_dnxnws</A>]]></description>
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