| [HN7000S] Hughes is Hijacking our DNS for Invalid URL's This one takes the cake.
Lately I have discovered a brand new low for Hughes. At first I thought this was a problem with FireFox but at it turns out it was doing the same thing in IE.
I could point you to a slew of articles on this, but it's not necessary. Test it out for yourself.
Any of you Hughes users, type any invalid URL into your address bar. Instead of respecting your browser settings, you will be directed to »wwwh.found-not-help.com
There's a whole list of underhanded business tactics this represents, but judge for yourselves. Looks like Hughes is further abusing the monopoly it seems to have over us for their own special brand of spam.
In order to stop this you must go here:
»optin.found-not-help.com/
And opt out. It only works if your browser supports cookies, and you have to do it in every browser you use, and if you delete the cookies it comes back. So basically you have no way to really opt out.
Nice going, off to see what media outlets think of this. |
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 seagreenPremium,Mod
join:2001-05-14
out there | reply to rocknbil
Re: [HN7000S] Hughes is Hijacking our DNS for Invalid URL's Can you verify your first link (»wwwh.found-not-help.com)? I get a "page not found" error on that. |
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 Jack_in_VAPremium
join:2007-11-26
Mathews, VA
kudos:1 | I get the same thing. This appears to be what is supposed to happen. However clicking on the second link brings up something that I think is suspicious. Anything that adds cookies I am wary of. |
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1 edit | reply to seagreen
Yes, isn't that INTERESTING?
Are you on satellite? Try some garbage URL, include the http. like »www.sddtgbrgdfgdfgfds.com.
For anyone not on HughesNet, that is what you will get. It's a special treatment *just* for their "valued customers."
EDIT: HA! This morning it's returning the usual "DNS lookup error" for a computer that does not have the cookie set to "opt out." Perhaps they have pulled the DNS hijack in reaction to my complaints. I will keep checking, we have several comps here on a router and I have one with the "cookie set" and another without. |
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Jack_in_VAPremium
join:2007-11-26
Mathews, VA
kudos:1 | said by rocknbil:Yes, isn't that INTERESTING? Are you on satellite? Try some garbage URL, include the http. like » www.sddtgbrgdfgdfgfds.com. For anyone not on HughesNet, that is what you will get. It's a special treatment *just* for their "valued customers." Ahh Dude, Seagreen is this forums moderator. I dare say she knows what she is doing. |
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I certainly meant no disrespect, only that this only occurs on a HughesNet satellite connection.
Here's a screen cap for your reference. Like a phishing email, it LOOKS like a "page not found," but it's not. Notice the broken images and the circled areas - it's in Firefox, returning an IE error, and note the URL. I got this page typing in »www.dfggfg.com.
»www.createsource.com/images/wwh-cap.jpg |
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Jack_in_VAPremium
join:2007-11-26
Mathews, VA
kudos:1 | I get this:
Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage
Most likely causes:
You are not connected to the Internet.
The website is encountering problems.
There might be a typing error in the address.
What you can try:
Diagnose Connection Problems
More information
This problem can be caused by a variety of issues, including:
Internet connectivity has been lost.
The website is temporarily unavailable.
The Domain Name Server (DNS) is not reachable.
The Domain Name Server (DNS) does not have a listing for the website's domain.
If this is an HTTPS (secure) address, click Tools, click Internet Options, click Advanced, and check to be sure the SSL and TLS protocols are enabled under the security section.
For offline users
You can still view subscribed feeds and some recently viewed webpages.
To view subscribed feeds
Click the Favorites Center button , click Feeds, and then click the feed you want to view.
To view recently visited webpages (might not work on all pages)
Click Tools , and then click Work Offline.
Click the Favorites Center button , click History, and then click the page you want to view.
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seagreenPremium,Mod
join:2001-05-14
out there Host:
CenturyLink
Wireless Service P..
Southern California
HughesNet Satellite
WildBlue Satellite
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said by rocknbil:Yes, isn't that INTERESTING? Are you on satellite? No, I'm not and that may very well be the difference. So that link brings up a valid page for you? Can you get a screenshot? |
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seagreenPremium,Mod
join:2001-05-14
out there Host:
CenturyLink
Wireless Service P..
Southern California
HughesNet Satellite
WildBlue Satellite
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said by Jack_in_VA: I dare say she knows what she is doing. You assume too much.  |
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Jack_in_VAPremium
join:2007-11-26
Mathews, VA
kudos:1 | reply to seagreen
This is where it sends me and locks me to that page, will not let me go back using my back button. (Yahoo search page?)
»wwwh.found-not-help.com/search?q···XuXy2uM8 |
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seagreenPremium,Mod
join:2001-05-14
out there Host:
CenturyLink
Wireless Service P..
Southern California
HughesNet Satellite
WildBlue Satellite
1 edit | reply to rocknbil
This is what I get in FF:
note the missing images
This is what I *should* get in FF.
normal FF 404 page
FWIW, it looks all right in IE7.
Edit: Actually it isn't right in IE7 either (I never use this browser so I didn't know what it *should* look like) What I get in IE7 looks like the first image above but the missing images are there.
normal IE7 404 page
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seagreenPremium,Mod
join:2001-05-14
out there | reply to Jack_in_VA
You are on satellite right?
I don't get sent anywhere.  |
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Molaker
join:2004-03-30
Cedarcreek, MO | reply to rocknbil
Here's what I get using the OP's bad URL of www.dfggfg.com
»wwwh.found-not-help.com/search?q···RY8Dsb70
FWIW
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XP Pro|1gb + XP Home|512mb + W2K|256mb thru LinkSys WRT54G|HN7000s SO|74W|1250MHz|Hughes |
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Jack_in_VAPremium
join:2007-11-26
Mathews, VA
kudos:1 | reply to seagreen
said by seagreen:You are on satellite right? I don't get sent anywhere. Yes, It took me to that site and then I couldn't get out of it. Had to close the browser and restart IE to get back to HN forum. |
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 millhamCreator of hnFAPMonPremium
join:2003-06-30
Rixeyville, VA | Jack_in_VA, have you verified that you are using HN's DNS? There are trojans out there that will change your systems DNS to point to their servers. |
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From Hughes
»kb.hughesnet.com/display/2n/arti···.5405237 |
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or270Premium
join:2007-03-13
Lookout, CA | Link above does not work for me,
Try this link
»kb.hughesnet.com/al/12/2/3790.htm
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HN7000S/satmex5 1170/.74 1 watt/Sig 78/ProPlus
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It gets even better.
Today attempting to go to godaddy.com:
"you have attempted to establish a connection with godaddy.com. however, the security certificate presented belongs to 'godaddy.tv'."
After which it directs me to »www.godaddy.com/gdshop/404error.asp
Mind you, I've done all the ordinary stuff - deleted cookies, I was **not** typing in https, any and all requests to godaddy.com, from any computer in the house, are all hijacked.
I run adequate AVG software and am not totally unversed in this stuff. During this entire time I have been on G-Talk with my admin who is in another location, using other bandwidth - he doesn't have these problems.
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Added note: since starting this post, the problem has mysteriously disappeared.
At this point not getting anywhere in IE, same problem, but was able to get in with FireFox. Strange, it is . . . |
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seagreenPremium,Mod
join:2001-05-14
out there Host:
CenturyLink
Wireless Service P..
Southern California
HughesNet Satellite
WildBlue Satellite
| Like your admin, I'm not getting any of that either which leaves two options - your computers or your connection. I checked in both IE7 and FF .11
I'm not on a satellite connection so I can't really check but I don't see a lot of corroboration from other satellite users in this thread so I'd be concerned about your computers if I were you. |
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