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Re: It is too late to put Humpty Dumpty back together again in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r19637735 en Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:43:29 EDT Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:43:29 EDT Re: It is too late to put Humpty Dumpty back together again http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19639229 MrMoody : That may stop some things from getting on Youtube, etc, but it won't even make a blip in P2P.
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I foresee many false positives and false negatives in AT&T's future. Many innocent consumers (whose videos are either Permitted or Fair Use) will be negatively impacted by false positives. Meanwhile, the pirates will quickly find a way around it and their videos will generate plenty of false negatives.

In addition, AT&T might lose their Common Carrier ISP status and might become liable for everything coming through their pipe. So even if they are successful at slowing down movie pirating on their network, they could all of a sudden be liable for every child porn website, threatening e-mail sent/received, and hacking event that crosses their routers.
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»AT&T Piracy Filters Tread Dangerous Ground]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19637965 Mon, 17 Dec 2007 12:41:01 EDT Re: It is too late to put Humpty Dumpty back together again http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19637735 GOLFnSUN :

said by JasonD :

AT&T (and everyone else eventually) is preparing a surgical strike on pirated files, which should eliminate some 99% of bittorrent and other p2p traffic.

And what method of surgical strike is that?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19637735 Mon, 17 Dec 2007 11:59:27 EDT Re: It is too late to put Humpty Dumpty back together again http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19637678 anon : HCT- If Ed Whitacre and Sen. Stevens hadn't made their remarks public in the way they did (Ed was inflammatory, Sen. Ted bumbling), bittorrent could have been put out of business by now.

Sometimes they gotta realize when not to put their problems up for public debate, not drawing attention to possible solutions, and keeping oxygen away from these net-neutrality fanatics.

Ultimately though, I think it will all work out. AT&T (and everyone else eventually) is preparing a surgical strike on pirated files, which should eliminate some 99% of bittorrent and other p2p traffic.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19637678 Mon, 17 Dec 2007 11:49:50 EDT Re: It is too late to put Humpty Dumpty back together again http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19637635 TScheisskopf : But, what about the moon calves and whackadoodles who defend antu-customer moves by cables and telcos out of hand?

Not that they can be found on BBR, mind you. ;-)

I know, I know, we should all genuflect to Our Corporate Betters and trust in their wise and altruistic decisions.

The best minds are NOT in business, either]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19637635 Mon, 17 Dec 2007 11:41:40 EDT Re: It is too late to put Humpty Dumpty back together again http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19637591 Dr Demento : If telcos and cable ISPs didn't put so much into lobbying, and even jumping the gun on justifying their network's current packet shaping schemes, these wackos as you put them wouldn't have a reason to feel paranoid. :uhh:

Also congressmen and the FCC among other government officials only adhere to an issue if people are kicking down the doors and scream about it, and I do imply sometimes literally. :p]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19637591 Mon, 17 Dec 2007 11:33:11 EDT It is too late to put Humpty Dumpty back together again http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19637429 GOLFnSUN : It is too late to bring common sense to the network neutrality debate. The network neutrality advocates have been screaming from the rooftops for over a year about how the telcos and cable companies are the devil incarnate. Now that they have revved up the bleating masses of music stealers and P2P advocates that network neutrality as an issue is more important than food or fuel or mortgages, they can't rein them back in. So all these fanatics are running around looking for network neutrality violations in every internet hiccup.

And BBR has done much to fan the flames in the past:
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