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LilYoda
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reply to wierdo

Re: Cut off the head...

First of all boiling water makes excellent coffee, that's how expresso pressure machines work

»www.boyds.com/coffee/brewingguide.html
quote:
A second requirement of water for good coffee brewing is the water temperature as it passes over the coffee grounds. Ideal brewing temperature is 200°F, plus or minus 5°F (at sea level).
If you read about the lawsuit here: »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonald's_coffee_case
You will see that McDo's coffee IS made with near-boiling water. What they had to do is reduce the temperature at which it is served to the customers. So basically, they have to reduce the temperature of an inherently scalding hot product so that careless people don't hurt themselves.

The same lawsuit was rejected in the UK by the way, the court recognising that

quote:
If this submission be right, McDonald’s should not have served drinks at any temperature which would have caused a bad scalding injury. The evidence is that tea or coffee served at a temperature of 65 °C (149 °F) will cause a deep thickness burn if it is in contact with the skin for just two seconds. Thus, if McDonald’s were going to avoid the risk of injury by a deep thickness burn they would have had to have served tea and coffee at between 55–60 °C (131–140 °F). But tea ought to be brewed with boiling water if it is to give its best flavour and coffee ought to be brewed at between 85–95 °C (185–203 °F)
IIRC, the maximum allowed serving temperature for coffee was lowered in the US in the aftermath of the McDo's coffee lawsuit

Secondly, I'm no rightwing smear radio listenner, nor do I have an agenda. Just pointing out that some civil lawsuits, including the coffee one, tend to go overboard and lead to legislation to protect people from their own stupidity.

Anyway, as you said this is off topic, I was just responding to yet another claim that McDo was right and the plaintiff was the most innocent people on earth. In this specific case, she was stupid or careless enough to burn herself with a product she should have been careful about, if she had an ounce of common sense...
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Talis

join:2001-06-21
Houston, TX

reply to fAcEtIOUs
Lol I sure hope you are the telcos lawyer. With a defense like that they are bound to win



Rob 23

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reply to Cod
HI COD. Can you take a look at this? »www.corp.att.com/news/2001/12/19-4135 and this »www.comcast.com/about/pressrelea···prid=291 IT was a 72 BILLION dollar merger. sbc merger was for att long distance network,it was for 16 billion So if you look at the dollar value ATT/COMCAST is 80% of the old AT&T. SO comcast received att broadband customers and local circuit switch voice customers.and the att ceo cio and others moved to att/comcast.


xrobertcmx
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reply to LilYoda
I think you missed the point. In normal circumstances I would agree with you, I even used to until I had to review the case.
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fAcEtIOUs
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reply to Rob 23

said by Rob 23 :

HI COD. Can you take a look at this? »www.corp.att.com/news/2001/12/19-4135 and this »www.comcast.com/about/pressrelea···prid=291 IT was a 72 BILLION dollar merger. sbc merger was for att long distance network,it was for 16 billion So if you look at the dollar value ATT/COMCAST is 80% of the old AT&T. SO comcast received att broadband customers and local circuit switch voice customers.and the att ceo cio and others moved to att/comcast.
The merger was between Comcast and AT&T Broadband. There were no voice circuits included in the merger. You have no idea what you are talking about as COD pointed out.
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Rob 23

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HI HCT. Can you look at this ( half way down the page )»www.pcworld.com/printable/articl···ble.html Comcast received 1.2 Million circuit switched phone customers from the AT&T merger.



TechieZero
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Gibsonton, FL

reply to gatorkram
Yeah its not like the government to have pushed them around b4 and force them to splinter their companies.

/The biggest monpoly we have is government...


wierdo

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reply to Rob 23

said by Rob 23 :

HI HCT. Can you look at this ( half way down the page )»www.pcworld.com/printable/articl···ble.html Comcast received 1.2 Million circuit switched phone customers from the AT&T merger.
That would likely be telephone over cable, prior to the more recent VoIP services.

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