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If AT&T is made to pay, customers (who were the ones wronged here) lose with higher rates and no one other than bloodsucking ambulance chasing lawyers win just as they always do with these BS class action suits.
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said by DotMac4  :If AT&T is made to pay, customers (who were the ones wronged here) lose with higher rates and no one other than bloodsucking ambulance chasing lawyers win just as they always do with these BS class action suits. Oh, ok.. So it is acceptable now for corporations to hand over all your info traversing their systems to the government with proper warrants and going through the correct legal channels. Maybe these corporations shouldn't have to pay monetary fines, but have their CEO's and all those that willingly gave the info away illegally thrown in jail for one year for each customer whose data/information was given up.
Just beacause it may cost doesn't make it legal and should certainly NOT let those who are liable off the hook.
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| said by ropeguru :Oh, ok.. So it is acceptable now for corporations to hand over all your info traversing their systems to the government with proper warrants and going through the correct legal channels. Maybe these corporations shouldn't have to pay monetary fines, but have their CEO's and all those that willingly gave the info away illegally thrown in jail for one year for each customer whose data/information was given up. They are getting civil immunity and not criminal immunity because NO crimes were committed by the telcos. That is why those suing like EFF, ACLU, & others are in civil court and not looking for criminal prosecutions. NO CRIMES were committed.
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You think they did it to be a "good patriot"? They did it because they got something else they wanted and there's only one thing they want ultimately and that's money. I'm sure AT&T customers can attest to their bill being reduced since 2001 while the company profits were on the rise right? |
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1 edit | said by firephoto :You think they did it to be a "good patriot"? They did it because they got something else they wanted and there's only one thing they want ultimately and that's money. For most of the execs, I'd say they DID do it to be a good patriot. My company(a railroad) was a major customer of AT&T and I met quite a few of their top execs over the years and often dealt with them concerning communications infrastructure security as it related to availability of that infrastructure(both as a customer and as a dark fiber provider to AT&T). And those I met took that responsibility of maintaining communications and national security very seriously - and it wasn't motivated by profit.
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| You have a very twisted view of a patriot.
They gave full access taps to all data. Not some data, not terrorist data. This is obvious because you can't have some data that you need without getting all of it. You think they really are going to call it good because they think they got it all, they need it all or else it's a failure.
But so what, it's obvious anyone can be spied on, Why can't they just admit it? There is no secret jihad phone line, they either use it or they don't. Only stupid people think otherwise. Yes, stupid people, complete morons, the ones who think we're going to get attacked because joe camel rider is going to use the super secret phone because he KNOWS that the US gov't is spying on his friends and family line. The only hope we have is that joe camel rider is as stupid as the people that think we need secrets to be safe. |
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DotMac4
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said by ropeguru :said by DotMac4 :If AT&T is made to pay, customers (who were the ones wronged here) lose with higher rates and no one other than bloodsucking ambulance chasing lawyers win just as they always do with these BS class action suits. Oh, ok.. So it is acceptable now for corporations to hand over all your info traversing their systems to the government with proper warrants and going through the correct legal channels. Maybe these corporations shouldn't have to pay monetary fines, but have their CEO's and all those that willingly gave the info away illegally thrown in jail for one year for each customer whose data/information was given up. Just beacause it may cost doesn't make it legal and should certainly NOT let those who are liable off the hook. No, I'm not saying it's okay. What I'm saying is the method that would be used to punish them, won't punish them. It would just punish customers and make the greedy lawyers rich.
If they are to be made accountable it should be the corporate officers as individuals who are punished/fined...not the corporation who are the shareholders who will then go after the customers for more money. |
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said by firephoto :You think they did it to be a "good patriot"? They did it because they got something else they wanted and there's only one thing they want ultimately and that's money. I'm sure AT&T customers can attest to their bill being reduced since 2001 while the company profits were on the rise right? No I think they believed the government would actively hamper their business if they didn't agree, just like the FCC hampers radio stations that don't immediately pay fines or wish to protest indecency rulings. |
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| said by DotMac4 :said by firephoto :You think they did it to be a "good patriot"? They did it because they got something else they wanted and there's only one thing they want ultimately and that's money. I'm sure AT&T customers can attest to their bill being reduced since 2001 while the company profits were on the rise right? No I think they believed the government would actively hamper their business if they didn't agree, just like the FCC hampers radio stations that don't immediately pay fines or wish to protest indecency rulings. yes. see QWEST for the applicable example in this case. |
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Huntington Beach, CA | Then perhaps like the Ford Pinto, it was decided to be cheaper to comply then take their lumps later. |
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