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Re: Cut off the head... said by amigo_boy:said by morbo:this "excuse" is favored by the telco lobbyists fighting for immunity. AT&T and Verizon had a choice. they decided to break the law. period. This "excuse" is favored by those who can't prove a law was broken. They aren't going to criminal court, but instead to that civil court. The same place you go when you spill hot coffee on yourself and it just *has* to be someone else's fault. if no law has been broken, enlighten us as to why AT&T is spending millions of dollars on lobbying to get immunity?
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| said by morbo:if no law has been broken, enlighten us as to why AT&T is spending millions of dollars on lobbying to get immunity? If a law was broken, why are self-styled freedom fighters resorting to *civil* court?
If I had a bunch of people seeking to bypass criminal court, relying on ambulance chasers and the nearly non-existent standard of civil court, I'd be nervous too. Just the cost of litigation under those lower standards could be enormous.
They're facing the same thing you are. You can't rise to the standards of criminal court. So, you lower yourself to civil court. Why should the fact that telcos are trying to defend themselves from *that* cheap shot be indicative of their guilt? Don't you have the burden of rising to the standard of criminal court? It seems like you're blaming the telcos for your own diminished standards.
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2 edits | nice attempt to change the focus, but you didn't answer the question:
if no law has been broken, enlighten us as to why AT&T is spending millions of dollars on lobbying to get immunity? if they haven't committed any crime, they wouldn't need immunity from criminal OR civil court. |
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| said by morbo:nice attempt to change the focus, but you didn't answer the question: if no law has been broken, enlighten us as to why AT&T is spending millions of dollars on lobbying to get immunity? if they haven't committed any crime, they wouldn't need immunity from criminal OR civil court. For protection from countless, groundless, harassing, yet costly lawsuits - each of which would have to be defended at great cost.
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morboComplete Your Transaction
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00000 | AT&T and Verzion are entitled to special treatment (retroactive immunity) because they made bad business decisions? that is some twisted version of corporate welfare. |
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2 edits | said by morbo:AT&T and Verzion are entitled to special treatment (retroactive immunity) because they made bad business decisions? No. They are entitled to it because they helped defend the US against her enemies at government request. And it wasn't a business decision but one based on patriotism. |
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said by morbo:AT&T and Verzion are entitled to special treatment (retroactive immunity) because they made bad business decisions? that is some twisted version of corporate welfare. Gawd. You guys are all over the place. Now you're self-appointed role is that of protector of the free market system? Riddle me this: If the free market is what it's all about, why aren't AT&T and Verizon customers stampeding to the clearly marked exits? Why does it take some whiney people hurling the "crime" bomb to save AT&T customers from themselves? And to make the market do what it apparently won't do on its own?
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said by fAcEtIOUs:And it wasn't a business decision but one based on patriotism. Thankfully, patriotism is not an excuse for poor behavior.
As with torture, if it's that important, go ahead and break the law. If you really were saving the nation by doing it, no jury will convict you. If they do, you can join the likes of Jesus and John Brown, people both willing to die for what they believe in. Only you wouldn't die, just sit in prison for a while, where you could bask in the glow of your heroism and martyrdom. |
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The count is currently 40. They will undoubtedly be combined into a single class. So, it is not countless. |
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said by fAcEtIOUs:said by morbo:nice attempt to change the focus, but you didn't answer the question: if no law has been broken, enlighten us as to why AT&T is spending millions of dollars on lobbying to get immunity? if they haven't committed any crime, they wouldn't need immunity from criminal OR civil court. For protection from countless, groundless, harassing, yet costly lawsuits - each of which would have to be defended at great cost. Groundless? They violated the law. It's as simple as that. For defending each lawsuit, they can ask the court to merge them in to one and likely will get that request granted. |
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said by morbo:nice attempt to change the focus, but you didn't answer the question: Of course not. He's too busy typing and retyping the phrase "self-styled freedom fighters."  |
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Talis
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Lol  I sure hope you are the telcos lawyer. With a defense like that they are bound to win |
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