Re: Where is Omaha? in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r19642054 en Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:42:30 EDT Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:42:30 EDT Re: Where is Omaha? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19648429 The Beer : It's a one way fight.

And when they do fight back it's all in the details...

Cox touts their 128/128 Cox Super Value Internet @ $19.99 then compares it to the 1.5/896 Qwest has for $26.99.
Cox's $26.99 plan is 1.5/256.

You can't fight the details and $19.99 is less than $26.99, but I would be mad if my EVDO phone had 128/128 speed let alone my cable modem.

It's all in the details.

I had been on DirecTV for 4 years and switched back to Cox in the past few weeks, I had no idea they did so many self inserts of their own ads. It seems like every 10 minutes there is a bash Qwest ad.

I miss the old USWest when it comes to being innovative.

The Beer = Council Bluffs DSL Subscriber #2]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19648429 Tue, 18 Dec 2007 23:07:49 EDT Re: Where is Omaha? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19642054 djweis : You can still get DS0 UNE loops, if you're good you can get a lot done with those.

I'm not sure that Q accomplished anything at all in Omaha, the only competitors that pulled out are the ones that were purchasing elements from them, the competitor that was soundly beating them has their own network entirely.

I didn't realize that McLeod was pulling out that completely. Who is Pinpoint?

The loss of Lighthouse is more addition by subtraction :-)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19642054 Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:51:27 EDT Re: Where is Omaha? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19641885 The Beer :
said by djweis See Profile :

We're doing metro ethernet over copper in Des Moines, there's nothing the local monopoly can do to prohibit uses of the copper as long as you aren't a hazard or interfering with other circuits.
I agree they can't prohibit however in the case of "The Omaha Order" they can make it darn hard.

You have done some really cool things there in Des Moines however why would anyone invest in Omaha with the climate the way it is now. It's a shame. Would you bring your RT's out to the neighborhoods here?

Rumor has it the next gen network will NOT be open to Qhost, I don't know if that's true, you would know better than me.

The loss of McLeod is REALLY going to hurt me in Omaha, and I will more than likely end up buying from you in Des Moines to make up for how mad I will be at McLeod when they bail. There will also be the massive hole left because of Lighthouse bailing with McLeod.

Omaha will soon be a duopoly, Pinpoint bought a bunch of McLeods assets in Omaha however they still have no last mile.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19641885 Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:16:03 EDT Re: Where is Omaha? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19640643 djweis : We're doing metro ethernet over copper in Des Moines, there's nothing the local monopoly can do to prohibit uses of the copper as long as you aren't a hazard or interfering with other circuits.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19640643 Mon, 17 Dec 2007 19:53:57 EDT Re: Where is Omaha? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19638723 Jonbo298 : Qwest has pretty much lost the Omaha market and they aren't really in the mood to try and gain it back. The commercials are pretty accurate by cox saying 8 out of every 10 households in Omaha has Cox.

Granted, they could go balls out and wire up FTTN everywhere in Omaha and launch a huge advertising spree to get back all those customers they lost, but they are taking the lazy way out and just trying to keep the other markets.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19638723 Mon, 17 Dec 2007 14:50:29 EDT Where is Omaha? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19638629 The Beer : You know I look at that first cities list and it makes me SICK!!

Qwest files for AND GETS forbearance in Omaha because of the Cox competition and then from what I see here gives up.

What a steaming pile of ****!

They have run McLeod out of the market because of their new copper rent and now put upgrading their own network on the back burner.

I was talking with someone from Iowa Telecomm the other day about ethernet over copper in Des Moines at $200/meg symmetrical and NOBODY can offer that but Cox because Qwest won't do it themselves and won't let anyone else do it either with their copper. Cox gets $2300 for 6MB

It's funny, in 1994 Qwest picked the fight with Cox to offer TV and now Cox kicks their a** to the point they will not even fight.

It's sad.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19638629 Mon, 17 Dec 2007 14:36:42 EDT