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MunichKid
join:2005-04-12
Berwyn, IL
| Avira AntiVir Personal Classic and Premium Sorry to sound like a noob but what does this mean:
Special protection against email viruses (POP 3) in English?
Does that mean it will not scan my Outlook Express attachments?
I am using NAV Corp 10 now that I get from work but want to try Avira out since I have been reading that it is faster and less resource hungry.
Thank you for all the help I have been getting in past few weeks. Much obliged
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|  Mele20
Premium
join:2001-06-05
Hilo, HI
| Re: Avira AntiVir Personal Classic and Premium I don't recall seeing that particular phrase, but I can tell you that Avira free version has no mail scanner. If you want a POP 3 scanner then you need to get Personal Premium version. It will detect malware in attachments and the email itself. You have various options in setting up the mail scanner. It can, for instance, be set to delete automatically an infected attachment and text will be inserted so that you still have the email just not the nasty. I don't use a mail scanner as Microsoft has stated many times that an email scanner should not be used on Outlook Express. The MVP's who specialize in OE tell everyone in the MS OE newsgroup to not use an AV scanner on OE as OE has a fragile data base and can be corrupted easily. I just download the attachment to disk and then right click scan it with Avira and I have not used the preview pane in OE since right after I got my first computer years ago. If you do want to use an email scanner on OE, be sure to back up OE regularly. I can point you to a good backup program for OE if you need one.
You might also be interested in Avira's Suite. It has a webscanner and Firewall in addition to the modules found in the Personal Premium version. I'm currently beta testing version 8 of the Suite that will be released next April. If you like Avira and buy Personal Premium or the Suite, you will be eligible for the upgrade next April. It will include a complete change for the GUI ...just to let you know if you don't like the current one...I like it but some don't.
Here are two links to free trials of both. I just read a post from some at Wilders who said they got the German version from one of these links...that is puzzling. They should be the English version.
Oh, Avira is very fast and very light resource wise.
»www1.avira.com/en/evaluate/chip.php
»www.avira.com/en/evaluate/vnu.php
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TheJoker
Premium,VIP,MVM
join:2001-04-26
Alexandria, VA
| How is the firewall in the suite? I've never looked at it, but in some suites the firewall seemed to be an afterthought, bought by buying some other company to be able to compete with other full featured suites.
It it easy to configure custom rules, such as for a particular program, only specific ports and only to a specific address(es)?
Does it have the ability to protect confidential information, such as specifying specific data that you want to block (such as SSAN or account numbers)?
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| | Kerodo
join:2004-05-08
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA
| Re: Avira AntiVir Personal Classic and Premium said by TheJoker  :How is the firewall in the suite? I've never looked at it, but in some suites the firewall seemed to be an afterthought, bought by buying some other company to be able to compete with other full featured suites. It it easy to configure custom rules, such as for a particular program, only specific ports and only to a specific address(es)? Does it have the ability to protect confidential information, such as specifying specific data that you want to block (such as SSAN or account numbers)? The firewall is not half bad, you can specify ports and addresses if you need to. I don't think there are any features for protecting confidential data. I used it briefly (for a week) and the only real issue I had was it forgot my rules a few times. That was enough for me to dump it, but perhaps it has been fixed since then, this was about 3 months ago. I'd say in general, you could do better, but then again, you could also do worse...  | |
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ZZZZZZZ
Premium
join:2001-05-27
PARADISE
| quote:
I don't recall seeing that particular phrase, but I can tell you that Avira free version has no mail scanner.
It doesn't need one as the resident scanner is sufficient to protect.
All of these AVPS with their mail options are ludicrous and don't offer you anymore protection.
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| | clocks11
join:2002-05-06
00000 | Re: Avira AntiVir Personal Classic and Premium
Not saying you are wrong, but I wonder why every other AV includes one. And why do they include it in the premium version? | |
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ZZZZZZZ
Premium
join:2001-05-27
PARADISE
| Re: Avira AntiVir Personal Classic and Premium said by clocks11 :Not saying you are wrong, but I wonder why every other AV includes one. And why do they include it in the premium version? I've no idea,but if you have your resident scanner configured right ,there's no point in having an email option.
Even Mozilla and Norton admit it:
»kb.mozillazine.org/Email_scannin···and_cons
There is however some good reasons to use a multi layered protection,like a mail filtering program.
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| | | | Mele20
Premium
join:2001-06-05
Hilo, HI
| Re: Avira AntiVir Personal Classic and Premium The reason all paid AV's include a mail scanner is because the public expects one and doesn't want to buy an AV without one. You are correct that one is not needed, but the public doesn't know this. They also are ignorant of the fact Microsoft has repeatedly stated that NO mail scanner should be use on Outlook Express because the database is fragile. If you read the Microsoft OE NewsGroup you will see the MVP's telling everyone over and over that their problem that caused them to come to the NG is likely caused by their letting their AV scan OE mail. So, including one in AV products is due to marketing and ignorance on the part of the public.
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jmorlan
Hmm... That's funny.
Premium
join:2001-02-05
Pacifica, CA
 ·Pacific Bell - SBC
| I got Avira PE Premium on a free six months licence, and decided to turn off the email scanner. My email is SSL. I don't think this email scanner works with SSL but I could be wrong on that. Anybody know?
In any case, I agree with others that email scanners are worse than useless. They use extra resources and, in my case, seemed to slow down email delivery.
No, I do not use Outlook Express for email. | |
| | Mele20
Premium
join:2001-06-05
Hilo, HI
| Re: Avira AntiVir Personal Classic and Premium I think it is POP3 only. I don't use it but I believe that is what I read.
BTW, Avira is having server problems (not just the servers either) so if you can't get updates and get forbidden errors it is not you. The situation has been ongoing all day. Their servers were taken down at one point and then put up again and I got one update...six tries since then (hourly) all failed. Nothing can be downloaded from Avira currently including the AV itself.
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Bubba17
Less is More
Premium
join:2006-09-21
| Re: Avira AntiVir Personal Classic and Premium Were I tote'n the Avira football, I'd devote whatever resources were required to fixing such "server related" problems!
They had server problems before I bought the suite. They had server problems when I was using the suite.
They have server problems. | |
| | | | Mele20
Premium
join:2001-06-05
Hilo, HI
| Re: Avira AntiVir Personal Classic and Premium I know! But irony here is that it is ONLY the premium servers with problems this time. The servers for the free version are working just fine. 
Avira posted a notice a couple of hours ago apologizing and saying it was fixed. Both my ver 7 and the beta 8 said I was up to date two hours in a row after the notice that it was fixed. I believed the report and did not check Avira web page to see the current VDF number. I just read a thread saying that it ISN'T fixed and that Avira GUI "lies"...we are not updated!
It is really messed up because both versions are set to update hourly. Beta 8 on my virtual machine has me at VDF 133 and claims that is the latest update. Version 7 on the host machine has me at VDF 132 and claims that is the latest update.  The latest update is actually VDF 136.
Avira is going, at considerable expense, into the boxed retail market in the USA. I think that is great but I think they had better fix their server problems first for good or all that effort may come to naught.
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jmorlan
Hmm... That's funny.
Premium
join:2001-02-05
Pacifica, CA | Re: Avira AntiVir Personal Classic and Premium The current definition is VDF 137 which is what I got automatically this morning. | |
| | | | | | Mele20
Premium
join:2001-06-05
Hilo, HI
| Re: Avira AntiVir Personal Classic and Premium Yes, I have that one now. Radu said to delete the IDX files and temp files and then try a manual update. That worked for ver 7 and then I went to do the same for the beta and there were no temp files to delete, but I did delete the two IDX files. Then I opened the GUI to do a manual update and saw that while I was away eating that the beta had finally managed to update to 137. So, it was only ver 7 that stayed stuck at 132 and, from what others have posted, if I had waited even longer (I had waited several hours after Radu's announcement that it was fixed) that ver 7 probably would have eventually become "unstuck" without my intervening. Radu said his updated immediately after the server problem was fixed and neither of mine did...they claimed that I had the latest VDF when I didn't.
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| | | | Le Boule
join:2001-09-20
Selma, AL
1 edit | I just tried Antivir Free for two months on my laptop because of its good reputation and recommendations from posters on this and other forums. While using Antivir my laptop was frequently sluggish to respond, slow to boot and shutdown and sometimes the updates would take up to nine minutes. Last week I put avast! back on the laptop (I've previously also tried AVG without any noticeable computer problems) and there is no impact on computer performance, it updates without difficulty - running quite well in other words.
From what I've read about it I wish things had gone better during my two month "trial" of Antivir.
I was impressed by the AV comparatives tests on Antivir but since using it negatively impacts my computer's performance and it sometimes does not want to update I'm going to pass and use something else.
And I'm certainly not arguing with Mele re her comment about "free edition" servers not being affected by updating difficulties but a friend using PE Classic complained about being unable to update for several days this week and he told me last night that he's changed his AV program also.
Just a comment for what it's worth.
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| | | | | Mele20
Premium
join:2001-06-05
Hilo, HI
| Re: Avira AntiVir Personal Classic and Premium said by Le Boule :And I'm certainly not arguing with Mele re her comment about "free edition" servers not being affected by updating difficulties but a friend using PE Classic complained about being unable to update for several days this week and he told me last night that he's changed his AV program also. Just a comment for what it's worth. I meant that comment about the free servers not being impacted tongue in cheek. Avira has a long history of the free servers having problems but usually the premium servers are fast and quite reliable. So, I found it sort of funny that here was a time when the tables were turned and the premium users got a taste of what the free users put up with much of the time. I'm not surprised if your friend, using the free version, had a problem earlier this week but during the time of the premium server problem the free servers were ok...ironic and that's what I was commenting on.
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Bubba17
Less is More
Premium
join:2006-09-21
| said by Le Boule : I just tried Antivir Free for two months on my laptop because of its good reputation and recommendations from posters on this and other forums. While using Antivir my laptop was frequently sluggish to respond, slow to boot and shutdown and sometimes the updates would take up to nine minutes. Last week I put avast! back on the laptop (I've previously also tried AVG without any noticeable computer problems) and there is no impact on computer performance, it updates without difficulty - running quite well in other words. From what I've read about it I wish things had gone better during my two month "trial" of Antivir. I was impressed by the AV comparatives tests on Antivir but since using it negatively impacts my computer's performance and it sometimes does not want to update I'm going to pass and use something else. Server issues aside (as Mele said, prior primary problem has been with free version update), the most often seen knock against Avira involves FP's.
And, if properly configured so that damage isn't sustained, what with all the instant suspicious file submission sites, I don't think an occasional FP to be a terribly bad thing. Surely, it's detection capability is very good ... always near the top in protection capability in testing.
Your discovery that it, for whatever reason, doesn't like your system highlights, again, the difficulty experienced by security software creators. There are so, so many variables. Avast! is a solid app and should serve you well.
Good luck!
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jmorlan
Hmm... That's funny.
Premium
join:2001-02-05
Pacifica, CA
·Pacific Bell - SBC
| Yes, I use POP3 but encrypted with SSL. I think for this to work properly, the AntiVir email scanner would have to decrypt/encrypt the email stream on the fly. I was curious if their email scanner attempts to do this. Actually I wonder if any AV does this. Maybe I'll start a separate thread on this topic.
My logs show updates were unsuccessful all yesterday afternoon, but I just got an update this morning. | |
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