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NY Tel
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Smithtown, NY
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reply to danclan
Re: When FiOS Attacks!

Yeah, the guy who wrote the blog REFUSED to accept 3 calls from Verizon (It is in the blog) after this process started. As far as I am concerned, he is part of the problem and should have taken those calls. How does he know those calls would not have resolved the whole issue?
I am sick of people behaving like professional "victims" all the time.

majortom1029

join:2006-10-19
Lindenhurst, NY

That doesnt matter that gives them no right to rip out his cable and take over vonages phone service when he tol;d them not to. So you are saying I can come over to your house cut you verizon service out and replace it with cabelvision and you cant do a darn thing to me?

That is just plain stupid.


NY Tel
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said by majortom1029 See Profile :

That doesnt matter that gives them no right to rip out his cable and take over vonages phone service when he tol;d them not to. So you are saying I can come over to your house cut you verizon service out and replace it with cabelvision and you cant do a darn thing to me?

That is just plain stupid.
Perhaps you don't see it but if you read his blog, he had the opportunity to take 3 calls from Verizon. How do you know that call number 1 was not from Verizon saying "sorry Matt, the order placed on the 7th fell through the cracks but we have re-scheduled for the 29th...is that OK?" but YOU and I will never know because he refused to take the calls so he is as much a part of the problem as Verizon is. You can't have it both ways in life, yes Verizon does screw up and so does every other cable company in the world. You need to be part of the solution and answering calls from the company you originally placed the calls with is part of that responsibility.
I never said it was ok to rip up his lawn or disconnect his service. He needed to be more proactive in this situation.

Having a realistic outlook and grasp on life requires all of us to be pro-active. Survival.


AnonProxy
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reply to majortom1029
I agree the blogger dude is stupid!


SuperJoker

join:2005-11-21
Yermo, CA
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reply to NY Tel
said by NY Tel See Profile :

said by majortom1029 See Profile :

That doesn't matter that gives them no right to rip out his cable and take over Vonages phone service when he told them not to. So you are saying I can come over to your house cut you verizon service out and replace it with Cablevision and you cant do a darn thing to me?

That is just plain stupid.
Perhaps you don't see it but if you read his blog, he had the opportunity to take 3 calls from Verizon. How do you know that call number 1 was not from Verizon saying "sorry Matt, the order placed on the 7th fell through the cracks but we have re-scheduled for the 29th...is that OK?" but YOU and I will never know because he refused to take the calls so he is as much a part of the problem as Verizon is. You can't have it both ways in life, yes Verizon does screw up and so does every other cable company in the world. You need to be part of the solution and answering calls from the company you originally placed the calls with is part of that responsibility.
I never said it was ok to rip up his lawn or disconnect his service. He needed to be more proactive in this situation.

Having a realistic outlook and grasp on life requires all of us to be pro-active. Survival.
I agree too, He should have talked to Verizon when they called, It's the only way to get stuff done, Otherwise they could go on to the next person thinking You're not home.
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(25.92GHz crunching for SETI with the PC Perspective Killer Frogs)

axus

join:2001-06-18
Washington, DC
reply to NY Tel
He checked his messages though... the messages were a generic "We want to talk to you", they should have left some actual information if there was a change in status.


bleearg13

join:2001-03-03
Gaithersburg, MD

reply to majortom1029
While I sympathize with this guy's plight and I hate Verizon as much as the next guy, your statement disregards the fact that he:

a) placed an order with Verizon (which they lost)
b) provided authorization for Verizon to port his number
c) ignored calls from Verizon's CS department

The techs who did the physical install did not "rip out his cable and take over vonages phone service when he told them not to". They cut the cable by accident and fixed everything they screwed up that same day. If you think that there is some massive Verizon contractor conspiracy out there disconnecting citizens' cables and connecting their own, you should turn off your computer and go back to watching Oliver Stone movies.

Also, once you provide authorization to port your number, it's getting ported - lost FiOS order or not. The FiOS order is a separate order than the number porting. It's highly unfortunate that he couldn't get an order number from VZN to begin with and it's even unlikely that they explained the LNP process to him in detail. Since the LNP order went through, then there is absolutely nothing that Verizon can do - they were correct in that they cannot help him get things back to the way they were, whether it was their fault or not. If he had contacted Vonage like they told him off the bat instead of throwing a fit, he might have been able to get the number back faster.


NY Tel
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said by bleearg13 See Profile :

While I sympathize with this guy's plight and I hate Verizon as much as the next guy, your statement disregards the fact that he:

a) placed an order with Verizon (which they lost)
b) provided authorization for Verizon to port his number
c) ignored calls from Verizon's CS department

The techs who did the physical install did not "rip out his cable and take over vonages phone service when he told them not to". They cut the cable by accident and fixed everything they screwed up that same day. If you think that there is some massive Verizon contractor conspiracy out there disconnecting citizens' cables and connecting their own, you should turn off your computer and go back to watching Oliver Stone movies.

Also, once you provide authorization to port your number, it's getting ported - lost FiOS order or not. The FiOS order is a separate order than the number porting. It's highly unfortunate that he couldn't get an order number from VZN to begin with and it's even unlikely that they explained the LNP process to him in detail. Since the LNP order went through, then there is absolutely nothing that Verizon can do - they were correct in that they cannot help him get things back to the way they were, whether it was their fault or not. If he had contacted Vonage like they told him off the bat instead of throwing a fit, he might have been able to get the number back faster.
If you review the posts that certain people make, sometimes they are very pro Cablevision and anti-Verizon IMHO, but I could be wrong.

Daddio1949

join:2000-12-13
Rockville, MD
reply to NY Tel
I also suffered from a Verizon installation mess. I ordered Verizon FIOS and was stood up twice. I stayed home from work for the installation. All they did was apologized.


Noah Vail
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join:2004-12-10
Lorton, VA
reply to AnonProxy
I agree the blogger dude is stupid!

Don't Faze me Bro!
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