Re: They can't abandon VT...yet... in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r19664484 en Fri, 04 Dec 2009 01:28:45 EDT Fri, 04 Dec 2009 01:28:45 EDT Re: They can't abandon VT...yet... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19672985 bogey780 : But an insurance company can back out of a state. And they can increase premiums across the board or specifically for certain classes (pending regulatory approval).

TNSTAAFL.

Someone pays. Every Verizon customer outside of the states being sold benefits from their sale. Everyone inside those states benefit from the sale not happening because they need those deep pockets to keep their slim profit margined phone service running smoothly.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19672985 Sun, 23 Dec 2007 00:27:04 EDT Re: They can't abandon VT...yet... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19671269 MrMoody :
said by bogey780 See Profile :

Next we can complain about insurance companies refusing to insure 16yr old kids who like to drive drunk.
Bad example. In most if not all US states, auto liability insurance is required and any company doing business in that state can't get out of insuring high risk drivers. Usually, uninsurable high risk drivers go into the state assigned risk pool, and all the companies get their share of premiums and pay their share of losses from that pool. It's another case where government requires them to eat a loss in order to allow them to do business. In the end, the good drivers pay for the really bad ones, the same as low cost telco customers pay for the high cost ones.
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said by bogey780 See Profile :

It seems that people won't be happy till the telecoms operate at a loss [...] Next we can complain about insurance companies refusing to insure 16yr old kids who like to drive drunk.

I personally am shocked that people can't draw correlations and connections
Indeed. Shocking.

(quoted emphasis mine. just in case.)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19668454 Sat, 22 Dec 2007 02:25:24 EDT Re: They can't abandon VT...yet... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19667711 anon :
said by bogey780 See Profile :

It seems a lot of people see no problem with demanding that an incumbent always operate landline service even at a loss but then demand they be given no special treatment and have to just accept any attempt to eat away at their profits.
Megadittos, bogey780! People forget that the primary purpose of a corporation is to enrich their stockholders. Customers should only be given the minimum level of service to keep them paying, nothing more. Damm customers, give them 6Mb and before the day is over, they're crying for 10Mb.

Furthermore, we need to bust up the gobdam unions and drastically cut back the worker's pension and health care benefits. If some employee doesn't like it, they can leave. There are plenty of people looking for work. Dammit, we need to maximize the stockholders profit, not give it to some whiny budding socialist employee that thinks s/he's entitled to it!

Are you with me, boy?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19667711 Fri, 21 Dec 2007 23:00:41 EDT WRONG! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19666644 qworster : The FCC is a part of the Executive Branch of Govt., and FCC Commissioners are apppointed by the President. There are five Commissioners, three from one party and two from the other. Though I suppose it's theoretically possible for a Republican President to appoint three Democrats, Bush didn't do this, which means that ALL FCC business is controlled by the Republicans, via the 3-2 margin. It's also NO coincidence that virtually ALL anti consumer (pro big business) decisions the FCC has made the in past 7 years are/were always by a 3-2 majority, with the three REPUBLICAN Commissioners voting yes and the two Democrats voting no.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19666644 Fri, 21 Dec 2007 20:09:18 EDT Re: They can't abandon VT...yet... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19665155 NOCMan : Whoever has the majority in congress controls the FCC. So that'd be the Democrats.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19665155 Fri, 21 Dec 2007 16:05:08 EDT Re: They can't abandon VT...yet... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19664573 TKJunkMail :
said by qworster See Profile :

Their contract with the federal govt. requires them to service EVERY part of their operating area.
Well there is "ABANDONMENT" and there is abandonment. And Verizon can downgrade service and maintenance significantly without OFFICIALLY abandoning an area. If VT isn't reasonable, they WILL be harming their states citizens.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19664573 Fri, 21 Dec 2007 14:13:18 EDT Re: They can't abandon VT...yet... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19664484 bogey780 : They'll keep doing what they've been doing.

It's interesting to see the duality of opinions. It seems a lot of people see no problem with demanding that an incumbent always operate landline service even at a loss but then demand they be given no special treatment and have to just accept any attempt to eat away at their profits.

It seems that people won't be happy till the telecoms operate at a loss everywhere... but then they'll be angry that their phone isn't as reliable as it used to be back when telephones were a federally protected monopoly.

Next we can complain about insurance companies refusing to insure 16yr old kids who like to drive drunk.

I personally am shocked that people can't draw correlations and connections as they once could.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19664484 Fri, 21 Dec 2007 14:00:40 EDT Re: They can't abandon VT...yet... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19664458 duked : Did anyone get this email

Dear Verizon New England Inc. Customer,

Pending approval of the Maine, Vermont & New Hampshire public utilities commissions, Verizon has agreed to transfer control of Verizon New England Inc. assets in Maine, Vermont and New Hampshire to FairPoint Communications. After the transfer, your new local service provider will be FairPoint Communications. We currently expect that this transfer will occur between January 31 and May 1, 2008.

Beginning December 2007, Verizon will cease providing paper-free billing. It is Verizon’s current understanding that FairPoint Communications will reinstate paper-free billing at a future date.

It has been a pleasure serving you.

Sincerely,
Verizon

JUmping the gun a little?????]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19664458 Fri, 21 Dec 2007 13:56:00 EDT Re: They can't abandon VT...yet... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19664335 Matt :
said by qworster See Profile :

Their contract with the federal govt. requires them to service EVERY part of their operating area.
I think the Telco's have been "servicing" their customers for a hundred years now. I don't know about you, but my ass is getting a bit sore.
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Pretty Fly for a White Guy™]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19664335 Fri, 21 Dec 2007 13:34:06 EDT They can't abandon VT...yet... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19664295 qworster : Their contract with the federal govt. requires them to service EVERY part of their operating area.

Of course, after looking at the way the telcos have been able to buy off the Republican controlled FCC so well, anything is possible!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19664295 Fri, 21 Dec 2007 13:26:18 EDT