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Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02
kudos:30

reply to ninjatutle

Re: Umm hello

Yeah just have your litany of think tanks coin some pseudo-science, send your cadre of thirty-seven lobbyists out to cuddle legislators, and get thyself some regulatory certainty!

Bunch of wimps.


ninjatutle
Premium

join:2006-01-02
San Ramon, CA

Yeah, they got $4.6 million in seed money from Uncle Sam by way of taxpayers and now they want a free pass along the rest of the way too?



Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02
kudos:30

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Yeah seriously. If they had any skillz, they'd convince Uncle Sam to subsidize the entire build out, protect them from competition, and make them wholly immune to the rule of law.

Pathetic.



jslik
That just happened
Premium
join:2006-03-17

said by Karl Bode:

Yeah seriously. If they had any skillz, they'd convince Uncle Sam to subsidize the entire build out, protect them from competition, and make them wholly immune to the rule of law.

Pathetic.
You forgot "and end up not building it"
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james

join:2001-02-26
CWCville USA

But... that would be dishonest, and grounds for getting tarred and feathered! Wouldn't it?


whiteyonenh

join:2004-08-09
Keene, NH

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reply to jslik

said by jslik:

You forgot "and end up not building it"
Isn't that what Verizon, Qwest, AT&T, etc. has done consistently over and over in the past? They don't want to build it because they say nobody wants it, but someone else builds something, they start losing subscribers, then they lobby to government to pass laws preventing the roll-out, then still don't build anything...

On a side note, reading over cable commission meeting minutes is interesting. In my town, Time Warner Cable never intended to offer cable internet, and only started offering it when the city stated that it was required to renew the franchise agreement. Unfortunately now that the franchise agreement is signed, Time Warner has the city by the balls. I'm willing to bet that another reason that they chose to offer it is because of the bundle deals with DirecTV and DSL, hence in some ways competition is a good thing, but if you're not a big player in the business and are a smaller ISP, large corporations will try to legislate you out of business, which is unfortunate, and shows a very corrupt government.


John Galt
Forward, March
Premium
join:2004-09-30
Happy Camp
kudos:3

said by whiteyonenh:

said by jslik:

You forgot "and end up not building it"
Isn't that what Verizon, Qwest, AT&T, etc. has done consistently over and over in the past?
For your perusal:

»www.newnetworks.com/broadbandscandals.htm
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jslik
That just happened
Premium
join:2006-03-17

reply to whiteyonenh

said by whiteyonenh:

On a side note, reading over cable commission meeting minutes is interesting. In my town, Time Warner Cable never intended to offer cable internet, and only started offering it when the city stated that it was required to renew the franchise agreement.
Hm, I'd be curious to see how that worked as the FCC in 2002 declared cable internet an information service, not subject to the franchise....
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JoeG4

join:2001-12-16
945941

Before they spend billions on deploying fiber all over rural america, why don't they put it everywhere else first?


whiteyonenh

join:2004-08-09
Keene, NH

reply to jslik

said by jslik:

Hm, I'd be curious to see how that worked as the FCC in 2002 declared cable internet an information service, not subject to the franchise....
The franchise agreement renewal was due prior to 2002.


jslik
That just happened
Premium
join:2006-03-17

said by whiteyonenh:

The franchise agreement renewal was due prior to 2002.
Ah, makes sense. Your earlier point brings up a potential problem? of franchising, which is the length of the the term. Considering these are 10-15 year agreements, the city/commission (and the company, for that matter) better be sure that they can live with anything signed for that length of time.
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