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... Japan is a model of competition in the communications industry. Wish the USA's leadership had been similarly pro-active. |
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| said by KrK  :... Japan is a model of competition in the communications industry. Wish the USA's leadership had been similarly pro-active. I don't think that NTT DoCoMo and Softbank Corp would agree with you because the Japanese Gov't just shut them out of Wimax. And saying they can get leases from the 2 winners doesn't mean a thing. Those 2 companies won't give NTT or Softbank the leases and are not required to.
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rit56
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| so what you're saying is that the lack of choice we have here is a good thing? aren't you Mr. pro business on this site? so it's ok to have only 2 companies dominate a market here in the USA but when you see it in Japan it's a bad thing? sounds a bit hypocritical don't you think? so secretly you agree with most intelligent people here and think the 2 party broadband system we have here is bad and AT&T, Verizon, Concast etc.. should be shut out of the 700 meg auction and we should have a legitimate 3 choice in the United States? |
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said by KrK :... Japan is a model of competition in the communications industry. Wish the USA's leadership had been similarly pro-active. First post, and the USA bashing has begun..
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said by rit56 :so what you're saying is that the lack of choice we have here is a good thing? aren't you Mr. pro business on this site? so it's ok to have only 2 companies dominate a market here in the USA but when you see it in Japan it's a bad thing? sounds a bit hypocritical don't you think? so secretly you agree with most intelligent people here and think the 2 party broadband system we have here is bad and AT&T, Verizon, Concast etc.. should be shut out of the 700 meg auction and we should have a legitimate 3 choice in the United States? In the United States, you can get reasonable broadband for low prices and if you don't like it, you can always move to somewhere else that has good broadband... I love the American system, it would really suck to live in a country where the monopoly is EVERYWHERE...
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rit56
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New York, NY | oh brother. there is a choice of 2 where I live and they both are expensive. do you read this site? have you been following the Fairpoint deal in the northeast... you love the USA and the choice you have? they have no broadband.... nothing. |
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rit56
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New York, NY | reply to Tzale
it's not USA bashing. it's called truth. |
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| said by rit56 :it's not USA bashing. it's called truth. It's not the truth. |
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said by rit56 :oh brother. there is a choice of 2 where I live and they both are expensive. do you read this site? have you been following the Fairpoint deal in the northeast... you love the USA and the choice you have? they have no broadband.... nothing. ~$40-50/month for broadband isn't expensive considering the salaries and cost of living in the N.Y. metropolitan area. |
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rit56
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| sorry to say but in Manhattan the triple play is 156. a month. that's without HD, only 2 premium channels and without renting any on demand movies. To expensive. I have no choice. Verizon does not offer FIOS here yet and even in areas where they do they keep both services similar in price. |
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rit56
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New York, NY | reply to Tzale
it is man. the USA is not this utopia you think it is unless you are very affluent. |
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said by rit56 :sorry to say but in Manhattan the triple play is 156. a month. that's without HD, only 2 premium channels and without renting any on demand movies. To expensive. I have no choice. Verizon does not offer FIOS here yet and even in areas where they do they keep both services similar in price. I get triple play for $138/month which isn't bad and it includes a DVR, Movies and 2 HD boxes with FIOS, plus a free LCD HDTV, heh...
But we're talking about broadband here... I think broadband is a relatively good deal... For $40-50-60/month you can get a nice connection in the NY area. |
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said by TKJunkMail :I don't think that NTT DoCoMo and Softbank Corp would agree with you because the Japanese Gov't just shut them out of Wimax. And saying they can get leases from the 2 winners doesn't mean a thing. Those 2 companies won't give NTT or Softbank the leases and are not required to. Well at least they have 2. Our licensing system seems to be grant the spectrum licenses to *one* company. We'll have to see how open they let it be. They've been great in other communications areas like broadband and wireless.
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said by Tzale :First post, and the USA bashing has begun... Oh please. Get a grip. Do you see any "The USA sucks because" in there? Now, if you want to say it's bashing the leadership (Or lack thereof) on this issue, well, I can't really deny that.
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said by Tzale :It's not the truth. Question: If it's NOT the truth, and everything is great with our leadership and efforts in this (and many other) areas, then please explain why we need Ron Paul as President?
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Here in Japan we pay about US$60 a month for 100Mbps/100Mbps FTTH. (My measured speed is about 86Mbps.) Businesses can opt for 1Gbps/1Gbps FTTH service for about $400 per month. FTTH service is generally available within a 3 mile radius of a telephone CO (about 80% of the population, IIRC).
Of course, all of the ISPs offer first year teaser discounts. I chose to pay $40 for each of the first 12 months. Other ISPs offer two or three months free, instead. The ISPs try to squeeze profits out of add-on services like TV over internet (miserable satellite-like channel choices and poor package values) and VoIP ($0-5 per month, but you pay 2.5 cents per minute for every domestic call and more for international). For raw internet connection though, I don't know of a better value anywhere in the world. |
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