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DotMac4
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No anti-virus software can protect a system from an idiot

Even basic precautions on the part of a user can avoid a majority of these problems with AVware picking up the last bit.

The problem isn't AV software getting worse, or malware creators getting better. The problem will always be the idiot in front of the screen who will open every friggin' app that comes from a Sexy Teen Near You or run every keygen they come across.

People are dumb and even HAL9000 can't save them from themselves.

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BinaryXtreme

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Re: No anti-virus software can protect a system from an idiot

I use AVG free both computers and it's been very effective.

DotMac4
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Re: No anti-virus software can protect a system from an idiot

Not nearly as effective as you simply not being a dope who will run anything and everything you come across I bet. I would wager that you are more the reason you're infection-free than AVG.

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Re: No anti-virus software can protect a system from an idiot

said by DotMac4:

Not nearly as effective as you simply not being a dope who will run anything and everything you come across I bet. I would wager that you are more the reason you're infection-free than AVG.
And here we have the crux of this argument. Thank you.

BinaryXtreme

join:2004-04-20
Sparks, NV
Good point. I still like AVG but I agree, it doesn't matter how good your anti virus program is if you will run anything on your pc.
NgtFlyer

join:2000-07-09
Marietta, GA
said by DotMac4:

Even basic precautions on the part of a user can avoid a majority of these problems with AVware picking up the last bit.

The problem isn't AV software getting worse, or malware creators getting better. The problem will always be the idiot in front of the screen who will open every friggin' app that comes from a Sexy Teen Near You or run every keygen they come across.

Best topic ever! And it's so true.

I myself have been on the Internet since before the Web existed. Used to spend a whole lot of time on Usenet and FTP sites.

I've been using AVG for years now and it has been effective. I do run tests occasionally using Housecall and Clamwin AV. I have caught a couple of trojans over the years.

As rough as it's getting, I still firmly believe it important to have good antivirus coverage on all of your PCs. Be it a single laptop or a network of corporate machines (especially).

Now, when it comes to sense, I consider myself an advanced user who doesn't open unknown emails, or even those fashioned to look as if they came from someone I know. (Outlook address lists are exploited more than any other resource.) I occasionally have someone else borrow my computer for a moment to look something up. It's always the ones that can't stay off of the 'social networking' sites that are the culprits. More often than not, after someone hands my laptop back to me after they checked their email or just *had* to post to their blog, here's AVG stating it has caught some sort of trojan or malware. So I grab my utility thumb drive and start up Clamwin, then on to Housecall to make sure it's clean.

So yes, common sense is the best defense against viruses and malware. I still consider it essential to run some kind of AV program, preferably a lean, effective one. AVG is particularly friendly when it comes to resource use. Both of my machines have plenty of RAM, but why let some bloated AV program chew it all up.

So a question then. Those using Avast and Antivir, how is it on system resources?

Things I don't like about AVG: On my notebook, it always seems to want to do a full scan when I'm out on the road running on battery. This is particularly annoying since that load will knock a full hour off of battery life. It would be a great feature for AV programs to detect when a computer is running on battery and not run a scan until the machine is back on AC power.

I don't like the popup that says the update is complete. I despise anything that jumps into the foreground while I am in any sort of program, and especially while doing IT work or presentations. I do not need my AV coming up on the projector for 20+ people to see in the middle of a Powerpoint presentation. This is almost as annoying as anyone doing a presentation on a Mac and the update manager starts constantly bouncing at the bottom of the screen. (Ever seen Hunter Cressall's video?)

I'll sum it up this way: Antivirus programs are like a seat-belt. It will help protect you if you hit something, but the best way to avoid being injured is to avoid hitting things in the first place.

Happy holidays to all!

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Yep. When dealing with a PEBCAK situation, code ID-10-T, the only way you could protect them from themselves would be to utterly lock down the system- practically make it read-only. You'd never hear the end of the complaints. "I want my porn and free screensavers!" *the sound of "Yes" being clicked one hundred and forty-six times* Some people just won't listen and won't think FOR themselves rather than just think OF themselves.

"Not that I'm saying we need to cull the herd or anything, but how about we just take the warning labels off of everything and let Nature take its course?"


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DotMac4
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Re: No anti-virus software can protect a system from an idiot

Perhaps Santa will bring the dopes a Linux Live-CD for Christmas.

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