 NOYBSt. John 3.16Premium
join:2005-12-15
Forest Grove, OR
kudos:1 | A Couple Points1) All you who insist you have never had a virus or just one, two, etc. do not really know this to be fact. All you really know is how many viruses have been detected. You could be infected right now and not know. Furthermore you all know the cliche, "you get what you pay for". Depending freeware anti-virus products and claiming no infections is not very credible.
2) What would go a long ways to improve security / protection would be for Comcast and the other cable broadband ISPs to provide a router/NAT like most DSL and Fiber based services do, instead of the default being to connect customers computers directly. Sure, if you are here reading this you do not need that hand holding, but you are a very small minority. The vast majoring of cable HIS subscribers are connected directly with either no 'firewall' or at best the Windows default software firewall and they have not even an inkling of a clue. I commend Verizon Online FiOS for providing a router/NAT with 'good' default configuration.
Been running McAfee VirusScan Enterprise Workstation for years in both large corporate environment and personal use. Can not recall the last time a virus was detected. Usually happens though when someone in the corporate environment gets infected and starts spreading it around.
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 tcp1Premium
join:2000-04-17
Herndon, VA
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1 edit | said by NOYB:1) All you who insist you have never had a virus or just one, two, etc. do not really know this to be fact. All you really know is how many viruses have been detected. You could be infected right now and not know. Furthermore you all know the cliche, "you get what you pay for". Depending freeware anti-virus products and claiming no infections is not very credible. Not very sanguine, but not really true.
I guess first off, if said virus is not affecting my data, performance, or privacy, how much does it matter then?
Regardless, what you're saying is a bit of paranoia. Viruses can only be introduced into a system through certain vectors; they can only operate in specific ways. You can talk all you want about the "ubervirus" that's undetectable by anything that we may all have - fine - but is that a really arguable point then in this debate?
All we can know is what is actually seen in the wild; and the truth of it is that viruses just aren't causing that much havoc out there in the daily lives of computer users. Be as paranoid as you want that something may be lurking, but you need to be empirical when talking about what really matters.
I have not lost one bit of data to anything that I could not definitely trace to a hardware or non-malicious software failure in 23 years. If any of these statistics were correct, I should have had at least a couple of "mysterious catastrophes", don't you think? |
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 root9
join:2005-04-08
Kitchener, ON | With all due respect: then you really need to come to my shop and see what I see on daily basis 
Right now I'm working on a box that keeps crashing after install of MS OS. This thing has been scanned with every popular AV, anti-spyware and anti-malware. Now checking HD for code in formatting, MBR, firmware etc.
To date I've found over 180 pieces of virii, nuke and kill code on HD. I've backtracked it all to crappy IE. User had AVG Pro then switched to NOD32 and still got infected.
BTW: Rest of hardware is A1 |
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 sbrookPremium,Mod
join:2001-12-14
Ottawa
kudos:4
 ·TekSavvy Cable
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said by NOYB:1) All you who insist you have never had a virus or just one, two, etc. do not really know this to be fact. and then you go and use the same argument ...
Been running McAfee VirusScan Enterprise Workstation for years in both large corporate environment and personal use. Can not recall the last time a virus was detected.
But I reiterate my argument from another post ... paid for is not necessarily better than free. The big guys "enterprise" editions do seem to be better and different products from their standard versions and most report far fewer problems with them. |
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NOYBSt. John 3.16Premium
join:2005-12-15
Forest Grove, OR
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No I did not use the same argument. I said, "can not recall the last time a virus was detected." That is very different than saying have never had a virus.
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