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TK Junk Mail
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 Where does the Eee PC fit in ?

This device is too small and too limited to be a real laptop. And too big to compete against the smaller and pocketable handhelds. I just don't see a big market for this size device.


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said by TK Junk Mail See Profile :

This device is too small and too limited to be a real laptop. And too big to compete against the smaller and pocketable handhelds. I just don't see a big market for this size device.
You can install Windows XP on it. If they can make a bigger solid state hard drive, it will become more popular.


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said by Rob See Profile :

said by TK Junk Mail See Profile :

This device is too small and too limited to be a real laptop. And too big to compete against the smaller and pocketable handhelds. I just don't see a big market for this size device.
You can install Windows XP on it. If they can make a bigger solid state hard drive, it will become more popular.
With a max of 8GB of flash disk, that doesn't leave much room for anything else. The EeePC comes in 2, 4 , & 8 GB flash models.
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said by TK Junk Mail See Profile :

said by Rob See Profile :

said by TK Junk Mail See Profile :

This device is too small and too limited to be a real laptop. And too big to compete against the smaller and pocketable handhelds. I just don't see a big market for this size device.
You can install Windows XP on it. If they can make a bigger solid state hard drive, it will become more popular.
With a max of 8GB of flash disk, that doesn't leave much room for anything else. The EeePC comes in 2, 4 , & 8 GB flash models.
Which leaves you about 1.5GB of free space if you install XP Pro, and I think a little over 2GB free space if you install XP Home.

But that is enough for me, really, to be portable. My email is online (google), and I can keep all my documents online (google as well). It makes for a good mobile device.

As SS Hard drives come down in price, and increase in space, this tiny device will become even more popular.


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Thats...

Current Production Models. As SS prices come down they'll expand their offerings. Meanwhile you can buy a 32Gig SS off the shelf and install it yourself. It will only cost you 2x the original price of the unit.

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Re: Where does the Eee PC fit in ?

It is an interesting Appliance that could fill a niche or follow the likes of The Audrey selling for $50 on Ebay.


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I think the 8GB plus the SD card space is more than enough for a simple browsing and productivity road device....


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December 28th, @10:40AM

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said by TK Junk Mail See Profile :

This device is too small and too limited to be a real laptop. And too big to compete against the smaller and pocketable handhelds. I just don't see a big market for this size device.
Don't think of it as a real laptop, think of it as a Super-Sized pocket PC. Even the 4g model has lots of room for use as a PPC if you use nLite to strip an installation of windows XP down to about 250mb. couple that with openoffice, gmail, and other web-based apps and this little lappy is a PPC killer.


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I think the 8GB plus the SD card space is more than enough for a simple browsing and productivity road device....
I'm not saying NO ONE will want one or use it. Just that for most people it fits into that in-between area of a true handheld and a larger traditional laptop. I still doubt this particular size of device will catch on or make many sales.

If I was shopping for a multi-functional mobile device, it would be more on the order of an iPhone or iPod Touch in size and capabilities.
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said by Karl Bode See Profile :

I think the 8GB plus the SD card space is more than enough for a simple browsing and productivity road device....
If I was shopping for a multi-functional mobile device, it would be more on the order of an iPhone or iPod Touch in size and capabilities.
That's because you own Apple stock


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said by Karl Bode See Profile :

I think the 8GB plus the SD card space is more than enough for a simple browsing and productivity road device....
If I was shopping for a multi-functional mobile device, it would be more on the order of an iPhone or iPod Touch in size and capabilities.
That's because you own Apple stock
I own stock in hundreds of companies, but it doesn't affect my choice of consumer products.

In fact I own no Apple devices at all and think they are mostly overpriced and designed for planned obsolescence. But thank god for all the Apple fanboys who continue to buy their products and drive the price of Apple stock ever upward. They help in a small way to keep my portfolio growing year after year.
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I own stock in hundreds of companies, but it doesn't affect my choice of consumer products.
Bad shareholder! haha.


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December 28th, @11:18AM

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I still doubt this particular size of device will catch on or make many sales.
Their price point is already driving down prices among lower end laptops. I like the idea of something inexpensive between a cellphone and a $1,000-$3,000 laptop, but with a full keyboard and real screen real estate.

Working on the Treo keyboard is a pain, but I also don't like the weight of a 15"-17" laptop.

I think it has a niche. It's been very very popular so far. Both among tech geeks and kids looking for a low-end laptop. It's also proving to be very modable, which is a good sign for longevity....

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Their price point isn't doing squat to laptop prices, because no one's heard of these things. As you mentioned in your article, its target audience is technophiles, a group that has shown little price sensitivity when it comes to the "gee whiz" factor or just being on the bleeding edge.

Cheap laptops came about due to simple economics -- as a product approaches commodity status, its price tends to decrease. The same thing happened to PCs in the 90s, and for exactly the same reason.


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When I experimented with XP Pro on my 4GB EeePC, I was able to get the total installation down to only 500 - 600 MB by removing all the useless garbage with nLite prior to building the ISO (the actual install image was less than 200 MB!). Since the EeePC uses SSD and you don't need / want to run a swap file, I was left with around 3 to 3.5 GB of spare room on the SSD, not to mention my thumb drive, SD cards, and external USB HDD.

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Couldn't I just use my 120 gig USB harddrive for any an ALL downloads???

Hell, I'd use an employee Sprint or T-Mobile account, unlimited EVERYTHING, and download torrent to my hearts content from anywhere I damn well please!

I like this PC!!!


FiL
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Exactly. Just plug an play wit the USB hard drive.

I know so many combinations I could actually use, this pc makes me want to buy it using this hack!


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December 28th, @03:26PM

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no one's heard of these things.
Not sure where you've been hiding....

»news.google.com/news?hl=en&clien···rch+News
Current revenue projections have the Eee becoming Asus's largest single revenue source in 2008:

»www.xbitlabs.com/news/mobile/dis···tek.html

I don't think ASUS is single-handedly responsible for the looming flood of sub-$500 laptops, but the Eee is playing a part....

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Not hiding anywhere, Karl. Just calling "bullshit" on you for your editorial statement about this making a difference in laptop pricing.

As of Christmas they'd sold 300,000 units in the quarter. They expect to ship 1 million *worldwide* in Q1 2008. *yawn*

Those numbers aren't big enough to move pricing in the slightest. We've had the cheap-o laptop specials for the past 2 holiday seasons and even normal pricing has settled down where you can get a decent middle-of-the-road unit for less then a grand. Oh, and that laptop comes with Windows XP, which most users are familiar with.

(Oh, and I'm not real impressed by PR-firm generated links that talk about "predictions" and "projections".)

Pretty neat product, but the keyboard is too small for us fat Americans, and it's still Linux (I doubt the average consumer is going to want to buy an XP license and fart around with installing that). Oh, and keep in mind that outside of gamers and hobbyists, most people have never heard of Asus.

*yawn*


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Not hiding anywhere, Karl. Just calling "bullshit" on you for your editorial statement about this making a difference in laptop pricing.
Since when is a forum opinion an "editorial statement?"

Wow. Don't I feel official. Perhaps I was wrong and the EeePC won't/hasn't impacted low-end laptop pricing in the slightest. Was basing my statement off of tech blog chatter. Where do you work?

I read a rumor this week that Apple's releasing a low-end dirt-cheap laptop in '08 aimed largely at doing battle with the EEePC.
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