priller
join:2000-10-20
Gainesville, VA
1 edit | People will be left out I have family in rural Pennsylvania. There is no cable service. They get 4 analog stations over the air. Two of these stations are via a transponder on the mountain. As I understand it, these transponders will not be converted to DTV. So, they are going to be left with 2 stations, maybe. This $40 coupon is nonsense. The prices of the converter boxes are just going to be jacked up by $40.
This a bad situation that was not thought out by the FCC ... but what is. The almighty $$$$ has won again and left the "little people" SOL. |
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garmst
join:2000-09-17
New York, NY | They have a choice:
1. Get Satellite.
2. Enjoy the two stations that are left.
3. Move to the big city.
4. Read more books.
You aren't "owed" television. |
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
kudos:2 | You forgot:
5. Buy a new TV.
6. Use the coupon to buy a converter.
Which one is the most cost effective to maintain the current level of service? I'm going to put my money of the converter. |
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 japPremium
join:2003-08-10
038xx | reply to garmst
said by garmst:You aren't "owed" television. Reminder: the change is driven by a public policy initiative obstensibly, at least, bound to best serve the people. If it leaves a notable percentage of people without service how is that successful policy? |
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said by garmst:... You aren't "owed" television. not "owed" but the airwaves still are the "public airwaves".
We the citizens of the United States remain the owners of said airwaves and the FCC sells licenses to broadcasters and others to be able to use our radio spectrum.
Saying that it should be our governments responsibility to include requirements for broadcasters to maintain these "repeaters" in the new digital spectrum so those who live in currently covered areas continue to receive OTA broadcasts as the switch is made to digital. |
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 BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | reply to priller
said by priller:I have family in rural Pennsylvania. There is no cable service. They get 4 analog stations over the air. Two of these stations are via a transponder on the mountain. As I understand it, these transponders will not be converted to DTV. So, they are going to be left with 2 stations, maybe. This $40 coupon is nonsense. The prices of the converter boxes are just going to be jacked up by $40. This a bad situation that was not thought out by the FCC ... but what is. The almighty $$$$ has won again and left the "little people" SOL. Sorry for your litle people but time marches on. Should broadcast stil be i black and white because it's unfair to to the 5 guys left with a black and white TV?
This thing has been planed for over a dozens years. I first rememebr hearing about this transition before my son was born and he's 12. In fact the conversion date has already changed twice. You originally should have been "screwed" over 6-7 years ago. Consdier yourself lucky. |
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said by openbox9:You forgot: 5. Buy a new TV. 6. Use the coupon to buy a converter. Which one is the most cost effective to maintain the current level of service? I'm going to put my money of the converter. Such BS! 
You can buy a converter box for your old TV or buy a new TV which will come with digital tuning capabilities.
You don't need a converter box for a *new* TV built after March 1, 2007 and you don't need a *new* TV if you purchased a converter box for your old analog TV.
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"Time does not actually exist beyond an artificial measure we create in our minds to separate events we experience into blocks that are easier to reference instead of as a whole single event that just happens and continues happening" - evolvedant |
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said by BF69:Sorry for your litle people but time marches on. Should broadcast stil be i black and white because it's unfair to to the 5 guys left with a black and white TV? Black & White TV's still display color broadcasts! |
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
kudos:2 | reply to BodyBumper
BS? I didn't say you need a new TV and a converter. I was adding choices 5 and 6 to garmst's post. Don't jump to flaming without reading the thread. |
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PDXPLT
join:2003-12-04
Banks, OR | reply to jap
said by jap:Reminder: the change is driven by a public policy initiative obstensibly, at least, bound to best serve the people. If it leaves a notable percentage of people without service how is that successful policy? Because public policy has decided there are better uses for this spectrum, than to continue to use it for analog TV channels (at the huge expense, spectrum-wise, of 6 MHz for just one, standard-def, video signal) for the small percentage of citizens that still receive them.
This part of the low-UHF spectrum is "crown jewel"stuff. It penetrates buildings well, and provides very good coverage. Public policy has decided it's more needed for things like first-responder public safety workers, and wireless broadband.
But I'm sure the usual crowd of liberal-arts major "activists" will start screaming about this when the time is right, and they figure they can get the most PR for doing so. I'm sure many of these will be "activists" who are also screaming about how the government isn't doing anything about fixing the problem that prevented firefighter and police radios from working inside the World Trade Center. They're too technically ignorant to get the connection; what's more, they don't care that they are ... |
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PDXPLT
join:2003-12-04
Banks, OR | reply to priller
said by priller:I have family in rural Pennsylvania. There is no cable service. So do I (except in Oregon, not PA). I get 100's of channels over my DBS satellite dish. 'sounds like you missed the perfect chance for the ideal Xmas gift.  |
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japPremium
join:2003-08-10
038xx | reply to PDXPLT
said by PDXPLT:Because public policy has decided there are better uses for this spectrum, than to continue to use it for analog TV channels Erm, a small logic loop that. Defending an event as good or bad because it happened? Identical to "all people are good (or bad) because they exist."
for the small percentage of citizens that still receive them (analogue). Did you read the article? Rather large percentage isn't prepared, nobody knows what it'll be 6 months from now, and you've spun 'loss of service' into 'getting reception' as if they are the same thing. Again, lacks logic regarding the policy decision ... as well as observation of what you are replying to.
But I'm sure the usual crowd of liberal-arts major "activists" will start screaming about this when the time is right, and they figure they can get the most PR for doing so. I'm sure many of these will be "activists" who are also screaming about how the government isn't doing anything about fixing the problem that prevented firefighter and police radios from working inside the World Trade Center. They're too technically ignorant to get the connection; what's more, they don't care that they are ... [yawn] So you're already predisposed not only on the topic but also the politics & practices of all who have, or may in furture, assess it differently. No wonder you make no sense: you're only concerned with your unshakable rightness.
You're reply stinks of 'devil could care they can all go to hell'. Can't make a worthy eval of any policy with that posture. |
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japPremium
join:2003-08-10
038xx | reply to PDXPLT
said by PDXPLT:said by priller:I have family in rural Pennsylvania. There is no cable service. So do I (except in Oregon, not PA). Sheesh. You are on a mission aren't you. Your profile shows " >www.chamberscable.com/cable.html">Chambers Cable Service and you've made a review of same. Here is NH we call that lying. |
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PDXPLT
join:2003-12-04
Banks, OR
3 edits | said by jap :You are on a mission aren't you. Your profile shows " >www.chamberscable.com/cable.html">Chambers Cable Service and you've made a review of same. Here is NH we call that lying. Be careful who you call a lier, bro. I have two homes; Chambers cable serves the weekend place. There's never been any cable service at the main house, just DBS. And I don't get service at the weekend place from Chambers anymore, either. |
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japPremium
join:2003-08-10
038xx | said by PDXPLT  Be careful who you call a lier, bro. I have two homes; Chambers cable serves the weekend place.[/BQUOTE :Appologies. The word is too strong for this forum dialog. My bad. It's the insensitive, cavalier dismissal of anyone who holds different views on the transition that annoys. Particularly so when pretending to be in the same (unknowable) delemma as a family is in central PA. BTW, you can't be my bro because he lives in Tigard. His ex's family lives in Banks but her bro rents a small house with another guy so you couldn't be my ex-bro-in-law either. We might be more distantly related though. |
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