Re: FiOS coming to Durham, NC? in Verizon Fiber Optics http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r19706205 en Wed, 09 Dec 2009 00:10:33 EDT Wed, 09 Dec 2009 00:10:33 EDT Re: FiOS coming to Durham, NC? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20050613 richrockstar : i live .5 miles from the C.O. in RTP (Davis Dr, and Hopson Rd), initally when i moved in, they were going to put me on 7.1mb dsl, but when install day came, 3.0mb :( . Also there are orange pipes sticking up from the sides of the roads all over RTP... but the verizon guys who came to my house to install telephone said that FIOS is not coming here for a very LONG time, and that the fiber sticking up all over RTP is for other telcos.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20050613 Sat, 23 Feb 2008 20:12:11 EDT Re: FiOS coming to Durham, NC? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20020537 DoRight : I dont know but something is happening in NC because we are looking at bringing FIOS kiosk to the area... I'll keep everyone posted..]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20020537 Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:28:41 EDT Re: FiOS coming to Durham, NC? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20017991 anon : Couple of things: Naked DSL / Dry loop DSL is available in this market. There are several different verizon websites where you can verify this, but here is the deal:

If you currently have a verizon land line active, meaning you have verizon phone service AND you have DSL, my understanding is that you will pay a premium cost (add $10 to your monthly fee) to drop the land line. I've spoken to a local office rep and a 3rd tier tech rep and was told conflicting reports on how it is done, but they both confirmed that it can be done. The conflict is whether or not you need a new line run to your house seperate from the current line. 3rd tier said No, local cust rep said YES. EIther way, though, it is available. If you don't have a land-line, it isn't a problem... you would just pay the higher fee

Regarding FIOS, all I can say is that something is up. Fiber "sprouts" are all over the city, and a close friend at TW has indicated that it isn't for TW. SO, if not them, then WHO? (for those unconvinced that it is happening).

Second, Verizon is now offering 7.1mb/2mb as a way of keeping current customers happy (ie. not switching to TW) while local fiber loops are completed.

Still unconvinced? Then why did Verizon privately try to run a Fiber trunk across a major highway (I-85 back in July) without notifying the local govt? B.c the airheads in city hall can't keep their traps shut. Why spend the money if you don't intend on using it?

Lastly, has anyone heard of MCI? Oh, that's right... VERIZON? We have a MAJOR Verizon presence in our backyard. 2 of the 3 major sectors of Verizon is located right here in RTP (MCI & multiple units of GTE). 85-90% of RTP businesses (not RTP acreage) are located in Durham Co and are serviced by Verizon. Why not upgrade the trunc and take advantage of the marketplace? Every other provider leases space from Verizon in this market (even TW... VOIP handled by MCI - I can't say any more about that), so wouldn't this make sense?

As I've said in other posts, even some of the FIOS call center people are clueless abot where it will be. You just have to know the right people. I alluded to a question that was posed to me about licenses and such being allowed by the state regulators. I don;t know anyone at that level, but it may be that the switch cann't be turned on b/c of state regulations not being passed. Anyone know anyone at that level and can verify?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20017991 Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:57:15 EDT Re: FiOS coming to Durham, NC? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20016399 dukefb26 : Not to add to the mass list of conflicting reports, but one of my girlfriend's patients works for verizon (not as a lowly tech, but in their business office) and he confirmed that Fios WAS in fact coming to the triangle soon and should be offered to companies in RTP soon if it hasn't already.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20016399 Mon, 18 Feb 2008 10:39:44 EDT Re: FiOS coming to Durham, NC? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20002173 richrockstar : i just had my 7.1mb dsl installed at my new apartment in research triangle... the tech not only told me that fios in durham is absolute hogwash, but the billboards that were put up were in error, and that it was part of a nationwide campaign by verizon to promote fios in all their markets.. once they realized there were no plans to roll out fios here they pulled the signs.

he assured me the high ups had a meeting regarding fios last week and that it is definately not in the works.

so to clarify, there are no formal, official efforts to roll out fios in eastern north carolina.

the only reason the local media picked up on it was because of the billboards...

this sucks.

-daniel]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20002173 Fri, 15 Feb 2008 15:33:55 EDT Re: FiOS coming to Durham, NC? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20000662 kklier : I already contacted Verizon about FIOS. You do not have to have phone service with them. In fact I never connected my phone line in my current house since I have Call Vantage. However, I did not talk to them about naked DSL. The upload rate is really good, much better than anything TWC is offering.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20000662 Fri, 15 Feb 2008 11:20:08 EDT Re: FiOS coming to Durham, NC? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20000619 anon : Bleh. Oh well, should have known it was too good to be true.

Not interested in getting into a contract for DSL, especially since they have stated I must purchase phone service from them to get it.

TWC wins again, I guess.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20000619 Fri, 15 Feb 2008 11:12:08 EDT Re: FiOS coming to Durham, NC? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19996049 aldamon :
said by kklier See Profile :

Does Verizon offer Naked DSL?
Good question. I have Vonage. I'd also like to know if we can move to FIOS without penalty once we're locked into a DSL contract. The speeds look nice, but it's the old "up to" nonsense again.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19996049 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:08:45 EDT Re: FiOS coming to Durham, NC? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19995950 kklier : Does Verizon offer Naked DSL?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19995950 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:57:13 EDT Re: FiOS coming to Durham, NC? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19995289 anon : OK, Guys... Don't shoot the messenger. I have good news and bad news to report from the land of FIOS.

Bad news first: I spoke with my "inside friend" at Verizon again today. Evidently there are problems with permissions being granted to finalize the deal. What that means is that it may be a little longer before it comes, but it is still on the way. Someone here might know more about this than I do, but is NC not agreeing to give local telcos flexibility in offering cable over net?

Anyway, the good news is that, ready for this??? Verizon is quietly upping our speed options right now. Call 877-483-5898 and ask for Ultra-High DSL. If you qualify (and I was told that most of Durham does), then you can upgrade to 7.1mb/2mb for 39.99 for an annual contract. The link online does not give you this option and only offer 3mb as the highest package avail. However, I just signed up and am 3800' from the node. I was told that up to 6000' still qualified for Ultra-High, as long as you have ATM as your packet-type.

* Since this is a very new offering for this area, you may be a guinea pig for a few weeks while they flush out the bugs, but it should be better than what we've had until FIOS comes later this summer.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19995289 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:49:15 EDT Re: FiOS coming to Durham, NC? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19994171 aldamon :
said by kklier See Profile :

As of today, there are no plans on deploying the fiber network in NC and I have not heard of any plans to start doing so at this juncture - though that can always change.

If you are reading or hearing rumors, and feel like responding, you can tell individuals that you have spoken directly with Verizon and have confirmed there are no FiOS plans on the table.

Sorry I can't say yes for now - but did want to follow-up.
"As of today", "I have not heard", "can't say yes for now".....Hmmmm. We'll see. That statement is as ambiguous as it gets and it's from a PR person.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19994171 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 11:13:49 EDT Re: FiOS coming to Durham, NC? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19993891 kklier : »www.bullcityrising.com/2008/02/u···zon.html
As of today, there are no plans on deploying the fiber network in NC and I have not heard of any plans to start doing so at this juncture - though that can always change.

If you are reading or hearing rumors, and feel like responding, you can tell individuals that you have spoken directly with Verizon and have confirmed there are no FiOS plans on the table.

Sorry I can't say yes for now - but did want to follow-up.
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19993891 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 10:27:30 EDT Re: FiOS coming to Durham, NC? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19990003 kklier : any update on this yet? any news on where in the Durham market this will be available?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19990003 Wed, 13 Feb 2008 17:35:07 EDT Re: FiOS coming to Durham, NC? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19914067 aldamon :
said by Steve Graff :

TW just needs to die. Unreliable service, un-reachable support (busy signals!), over-priced service. I can't wait to kick them to the curb.
It will be interesting to see how TWC responds. I'm sure we'll get offered the "up to" 15/1-ish package as every other FIOS market. I still can't believe we've had 384k in the standard tier for 8 years. They won't upgrade anything unless competition comes to town.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19914067 Fri, 01 Feb 2008 08:21:45 EDT Re: FiOS coming to Durham, NC? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19912955 anon : Ooo! I'm salivating at the thought of FIOS. I always wondered about that since I see Verizon trucks going up and down our street every day.

Of course, I just switched from TW (they suck!) to Clearwire three weeks ago and am locked into a two year contract. But if I can get FIOS for Internet and TV (still have TW cable for TV) then I'll probably just bite the bullet and pay the early termination fee.

TW just needs to die. Unreliable service, un-reachable support (busy signals!), over-priced service. I can't wait to kick them to the curb.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19912955 Thu, 31 Jan 2008 23:22:49 EDT Re: FiOS coming to Durham, NC? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19908403 dukefb26 : I am SHOCKED to hear that the Durham police mis-understood and messed something up. As you can see from my username, I am a little biased when it comes to Durham PD. I can't wait for FIOS, I want the NFL Network....and do you know how hard it is to WOW and browse the internet at the same times with DSL???]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19908403 Thu, 31 Jan 2008 10:23:50 EDT Re: FiOS coming to Durham, NC? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19908219 aldamon :
said by informed1 :

and then downtown
:D :D :D :D :D

I knew something was up when I posted this:

»Does this have anything to do w/ getting FIOS in Durham, NC?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19908219 Thu, 31 Jan 2008 09:48:10 EDT Re: FiOS coming to Durham, NC? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19906628 anon : I currently work for Verizon selling Fios in Verizon wireless stores and I can tell you that we are opening one up in Durham within the next few months. I have not heard when Fios is coming to Durham but I can gaurantee that if they want us to open a location down there Fios is definitely coming very soon. Once I know more I will let you know where you can come and sign up at]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19906628 Wed, 30 Jan 2008 22:51:20 EDT Re: FiOS coming to Durham, NC? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19903626 anon : Almost forgot: She did say that they try to keep things under-wrap until everything is in place to try and fight off competitive offers that lock people in to a longterm contract. Maybe that is why we haven't heard anything from the press yet?

One a side note, there are fiber lines sticking up out of the ground up and down MLK Blvd. I've seen them in other areas as well, but just saw those this past weekend, FWIW.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19903626 Wed, 30 Jan 2008 14:44:21 EDT Re: FiOS coming to Durham, NC? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19903601 anon : Ok, guys... here's the deal. I posted a few weeks ago concerning FIOS launch here in Durham. First, there WAS a billboard on the Durham Freeway, going south, just past the Alston Ave exit (near the old walk-over bridge). It is now down. I did see another FIOS bb on hwy 70 goiing into Durham near Miami blvd, but don't remember where it was (maybe near Kemp's seafood).

Anyway...

I had a serious disruption of my DSL service back in January that caused me to get so mad at Verizon tech support that I - gasp - almost switched to TW. I work from home and my service was terminated accidentally by a cust serv rep and took 3 days to get back online. After numerous frantic calls to every support rep I could speak to trying to get it resolved, I found myself deciding to cancel my service and switch. Enter Bell-Atlantic

It seems that the general support lines are all managed by the verizon incomp tech support people, you know... "have you rebooted your modem? Yes? Ah, I don't know... it must me a Windows error. Have I helped you today? Goodbye" Anyway, a very friendly Level 3 / Tier 3 techie came on the line and spent an hour with me diagnozing the problem. She ABSOLUTELY knew what she was doing, and informed me that the upper level support people all work for Bell Atlantic, and that FIOS was actually their initial project, not Verizon. After the merge, Verizon took credit and began servicing the B-A coverage area 1st (look at the map, it makes sense).

Cut to the chase: I spoke with her at length concerning FIOS rollout and she informed me that she could not tell me anything further on her phone, as it was being monitored. But did call me from a private # later in the day to follow-up on my issue.

During that call I was told that the local loops had been completed and that launch plans were imminent (2-3 weeks). Marketing was culling Db files from people who had registered to be notified and would give them first shot. She gave me areas of the city that only a person involved would be aware of, and further stated that it may be that businesses in RTP might get the first shot, since almost all of RTP is in Durham Co. Evidentially alot of bus. in RTP use TW for broadband, and Fios/Verizon wants it back.

I wish I could give you more than that. I'm waiting on pins/needles wanting to sign-up, as the fastest speed I can get is around 1.2mbp via DSL. Southpoint bc of its proximity to RTP would be 1st, and then downtown and then northern Durham up Duke St (where other Verizon offices are located).

Odd thing, though... I've been getting a lot of calls from TW heavily pushing their Bundle package. I wonder if they know something is up.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19903601 Wed, 30 Jan 2008 14:39:15 EDT Re: FiOS coming to Durham, NC? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19897370 jaydro : I didn't notice the billboard when I was driving 147 from Broad St. (though that's not the exit name, darnit, Edit: it's the Swift Ave. exit) back towards I-40 this past weekend, but I forgot to look for it. I definitely saw it a month ago--when I was a passenger going from I-85 towards I-40. I forget exactly where it was....]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19897370 Tue, 29 Jan 2008 16:03:04 EDT Re: FiOS coming to Durham, NC? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19896656 anon : I saw the billboard sign this morning on 147 on my way to work. It's been there for at least a month now. Hopefully they will be installing FIOS soon in my neighborhood!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19896656 Tue, 29 Jan 2008 14:09:25 EDT Re: FiOS coming to Durham, NC? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19878006 anon : I drove the Durham freeway eastbound from 15-501 all the way to I-40 last night, no FIOS billboards. :( (And they would have been pretty obvious, hardly any billboards there in the first place.)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19878006 Sat, 26 Jan 2008 11:24:15 EDT Re: FiOS coming to Durham, NC? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19867231 kklier : WOW, I came here to DSL reports in hopes of

A: TWC upping the bandwidth rates
B: FIOS availability in Durham!

I would take B in a heart beat...now the big question. We built a house in Southern Durham, but since we use VoIP(AT&T) we never connected a phone line. Will that be an issue?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19867231 Thu, 24 Jan 2008 16:08:48 EDT Re: FiOS coming to Durham, NC? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19865475 anon : If anyone is willing to try to navigate the hellishness that is verizon's telephone customer service and get through to a local office (I can't spend that much time on it from work) to confirm any of this, I'll pitch in by driving the stretch of freeway after work that's supposedly got the billboards, and report back. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19865475 Thu, 24 Jan 2008 11:36:05 EDT Re: FiOS coming to Durham, NC? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19865242 aldamon :
said by informed1 :

Spoke to a rep today, and was told that all the local loop work had been completed for southern durham and some of northern durham. Southern Durham (Southpoint / RTP area) will begin to get mailers within 2-3 weeks after they begin notifying those who asked to be notified.

Again, I was told TODAY, 1/10/08 that FIOS was within 1 month of full rollout. B/c of financial concerns, not every section would get immediate access, but 80% or so of the county would by early summer.
OMG OMG OMG@@@!!!

Woohoo! I will sign up the day it's available downtown. Come on Verizon!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19865242 Thu, 24 Jan 2008 11:01:27 EDT Re: FiOS coming to Durham, NC? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19848291 GRIZZMEISTER : AT&T is rolling out a thing called U-Verse in Raleigh and Chapel Hill; the only way that Verizon can compete is with Fios. Since I’m in the Embarq footprint I gotta make do with Time Warner’s severely overpriced 6 Mbps service. :(

Hey, if we vote Hillary Clinton in for president can we insist that she make fiber optic to all residences in the US mandatory? :p]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19848291 Mon, 21 Jan 2008 19:43:47 EDT Re: FiOS coming to Durham, NC? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19839040 anon :
said by AnonName :

I'm also curious. Has anyone else seen these FIOS billboards? On what street?
Yes, I noticed the same billboard when I was home for the Christmas holidays visiting my family. I was very surprised to see a FIOS billboard, since I didn't think it was available, and I was thinking that Durham's status as an island of Verizon (formerly GTE) in the middle of AT&T (formerly BellSouth) would prevent FIOS from coming anytime time.

I believe that billboard was on the Durham Freeway heading towards RTP/the airport, but I don't remember the location as much as I remember seeing it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19839040 Sun, 20 Jan 2008 11:41:54 EDT Re: FiOS coming to Durham, NC? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19838753 DoRight : And then all you can register and do reviews.. Yeah!!! LOL]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19838753 Sun, 20 Jan 2008 10:41:59 EDT Re: FiOS coming to Durham, NC? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19838617 anon : I'm also curious. Has anyone else seen these FIOS billboards? On what street?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19838617 Sun, 20 Jan 2008 10:09:40 EDT Re: FiOS coming to Durham, NC? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19826056 anon :
said by informed1 :

Spoke to a rep today, and was told that all the local loop work had been completed for southern durham and some of northern durham. Southern Durham (Southpoint / RTP area) will begin to get mailers within 2-3 weeks after they begin notifying those who asked to be notified.

Again, I was told TODAY, 1/10/08 that FIOS was within 1 month of full rollout. B/c of financial concerns, not every section would get immediate access, but 80% or so of the county would by early summer.
Could this even remotely be possible? Any one else able to confirm even seeing the billboards? Everything I've read (and of course, the info on FIOS is notoriously hard to come by) still says Verizon hadn't reached agreements with NC yet, that the fiber was not in place, yadda yadda etc.

Also, when I look at Verizon rollout press releases from as late as last month (Decemeber 2007), they don't even mention North Carolina.

»newscenter.verizon.com/press-rel···-in.html

With the latest crap being pulled by TWC, I decided to do my occasional FIOS search. The post above has me very hopeful (I live in the SouthPoint area), but I cannot find a single piece of corroborating data anywhere on the web, and I've already been through the incredibly painful experience of trying to find this stuff out by actually *calling* Verizon (shudder).

Anyone? Anyone? Anyone else even seen a billboard?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19826056 Fri, 18 Jan 2008 09:29:01 EDT Re: FiOS coming to Durham, NC? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19776612 anon : Spoke to a rep today, and was told that all the local loop work had been completed for southern durham and some of northern durham. Southern Durham (Southpoint / RTP area) will begin to get mailers within 2-3 weeks after they begin notifying those who asked to be notified.

Again, I was told TODAY, 1/10/08 that FIOS was within 1 month of full rollout. B/c of financial concerns, not every section would get immediate access, but 80% or so of the county would by early summer.

Fios TV, phone, internet. Plans for internet start at 5 down / 2 up for 29.99. So happy I can't stand it!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19776612 Thu, 10 Jan 2008 17:49:01 EDT Re: FiOS coming to Durham, NC? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19743525 anon : Yea. I saw the billboard also. I had heard that due to red tape, they hadn't approved FIOS in the triangle. Wish it would get here soon. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19743525 Sat, 05 Jan 2008 12:21:27 EDT Re: FiOS coming to Durham, NC? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19706205 manny7437 : well i can tell you that verizon is not placing fios in durham i work there for 7 years i move to florida and work for verizon in fios rt now i dont think will be there anytime soom belive me all the money on fios are spend in florida tx california and new york but i hope they place fios you will love the speed and tv is great good luck ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19706205 Sat, 29 Dec 2007 23:15:18 EDT FiOS coming to Durham, NC? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19705944 jaydro : Verizon still says I can't get FiOS but tonight I noticed a new (to me) Verizon billboard on the Durham freeway advertising FiOS! Could the day be near?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19705944 Sat, 29 Dec 2007 22:21:41 EDT