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Scatcatpdx
Fur It Up

join:2007-06-22
Portland, OR
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reply to jersey7

Re: Population density is good for deployment.

said by jersey7:

Japan: 872.8/sq mi
France: 293/sq mi
South Korea: 1,274/sq mi
These are the three top countries with the fastest internet speeds.

New Jersey: 1,134/sq mi
How come New Jersey can't offer the same speeds at a comparable price?

Population density is NOT the main reason why the US have not deployed faster internet. It's mostly government policy. We are the only industrialized country in the world with no national broadband plan. We've spend over a trillion dollars in Iraq already. Rather than spend it on some foreign country, we can use a fraction of that to wire the country(and bring actual benefits to our economy).
Let me put it bluntly Government has the responsibility to protect it citizens hence spending in Iraq. Government has no damed business screwing around with the free market. There is no right to broadband in the Constitution. I do want government to
1. Define what is broadband
2. Tell me via government planning, what kind of broadband I need I know my needs.
3. Force any American via government planning and taxes, to spend on broadband infrastructure for and dubious unproven economic benefits.
4. plan such networks: socialism never works.
You are free to start you own business and by an OC-12 line if you think what the telecoms provided is not fast enough. Just do not involve my tax dollars.

jersey7

join:2007-05-14

I apologize for writing the message quickly, but however in a response I have stated that we don't need to follow the system(of the Koreans which is government involvement), but we of course need 'something' that works. I fully understand and respect your standpoint in pure-capitalism and the wonders it has provided for America in the 20th Century. Coming back to my original reply to this thread, blaming our inaction and our poor standing in the world in the 21st Century should not be blamed on 'population density' alone.



Dogfather
Premium
join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA

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The system works just fine. I've had multi-megabit service from Cox for OVER 10 years. Already millions of people can get FTTH and tens of millions more can get multi-megabit service from competitors and those numbers are increasing by millions a year.

There is no crisis to be solved.



gaforces
United We Stand, Divided We Fall

join:2002-04-07
Santa Cruz, CA

reply to Scatcatpdx
Working as a team is not necessarily socialism. Last time I looked (south) Korea was a democracy.
I would think, with their terrain, they had some obstacles to deployment which they were able to overcome with government help.
For some reason (couldn't be economics), they saw fit to wire their whole country with fiber.
From what I have seen online, the Koreans are one of the most formidable opponents to come up against in any online competition.
I don't see anything more important than bringing the US into the digital age.
While a large portion of Americans are waddling in 1950's technology, the rest of the world is passing us at lightspeed.

"South Korea is one of the world's most technologically and scientifically advanced countries; it is the only country in the world having nationwide 100Mbit/s broadband internet access, full HDTV broadcasting, DMB, WiBro and 3G HSDPA. It is currently the most wired nation in the world, with 90 per cent of homes connected to high speed broadband internet"
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_korea
--
‘Do ye, quieting in your bosoms your strong hearts,
Who of many good things have had your fill even to surfeit,
With what is moderate nourish your mighty desire; for neither will
We yield, nor shall you have all else as you wish.’
Solon



Scatcatpdx
Fur It Up

join:2007-06-22
Portland, OR
Reviews:
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said by gaforces:

Working as a team is not necessarily socialism. Last time I looked (south) Korea was a democracy.
I would think, with their terrain, they had some obstacles to deployment which they were able to overcome with government help.
For some reason (couldn't be economics), they saw fit to wire their whole country with fiber.
From what I have seen online, the Koreans are one of the most formidable opponents to come up against in any online competition.
I don't see anything more important than bringing the US into the digital age.
While a large portion of Americans are waddling in 1950's technology, the rest of the world is passing us at lightspeed.

"South Korea is one of the world's most technologically and scientifically advanced countries; it is the only country in the world having nationwide 100Mbit/s broadband internet access, full HDTV broadcasting, DMB, WiBro and 3G HSDPA. It is currently the most wired nation in the world, with 90 per cent of homes connected to high speed broadband internet"
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_korea
So what! I admire the Korean People and the food but this is America! 100Mb resdetial brodband and HDTV has nothing to do with America as a world power. I do not give a dam what the Koreans have or willing pay taxes for a government planned system because you want the latest toys. I hate to tell you but watching a DVD on a LCD TV is not 1950's technology. Lose the hype Gorge. I am happy with 6Mb Internet, no cable TV, and my shows on DVD. The rest who want more and expect me to pay for it with my tax dollars can go to hell as far I am concern. If you want 100Mb and HDTV start you own company.


gaforces
United We Stand, Divided We Fall

join:2002-04-07
Santa Cruz, CA

While you may be happy with 6 Mb service there are people 5 miles from me, and probably you, that have no service, or dial-up.
Would you be happy with dial-up?
100 Mb is just a start, in 5 years we will be even farther behind, now were 10x slower, by then we will be 100x slower.
Don't need to hype to see that technology is what is driving the worlds economy now, you can dig your head in the sand if you want, others can see the writing on the ether ...
--
‘Do ye, quieting in your bosoms your strong hearts,
Who of many good things have had your fill even to surfeit,
With what is moderate nourish your mighty desire; for neither will
We yield, nor shall you have all else as you wish.’
Solon


Lazlow

join:2006-08-07
Saint Louis, MO

reply to Scatcatpdx
Richard B

You will have to explain this to me:

"Let me put it bluntly Government has the responsibility to protect it citizens hence spending in Iraq."

I agree that government has the responsibility to protect its citizens. How does that relate to Iraq?



factchecker

@cox.net

reply to Scatcatpdx

said by Scatcatpdx:

Let me put it bluntly Government has the responsibility to protect it citizens hence spending in Iraq.
The two have nothing to do with each other... And since you used that as the keystone of your argument, the rest of it is pure Randriod drivel.

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