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tmc8080

join:2004-04-24
Brooklyn, NY
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quite clear

It's quite clear that some of you don't want FTTP or the next generation of bandwidth increases. That's ok, just don't deploy there.. now if we could get you all together and call that region broadband black hole we'd have a much simpler time wiring the rest of us who want the next generation deployments. Do all that, and the government won't have to subsidize..


longstreet

join:2004-11-14
Plano, TX

said by tmc8080:

It's quite clear that some of you don't want FTTP or the next generation of bandwidth increases. That's ok, just don't deploy there.. now if we could get you all together and call that region broadband black hole we'd have a much simpler time wiring the rest of us who want the next generation deployments. Do all that, and the government won't have to subsidize..
Consider the size of Japan, compared to the United States, then look up how much money it costs to lay fiber, and re-evaluate that statement.

Trust me we want it. But . . .as I said above . .

tmc8080

join:2004-04-24
Brooklyn, NY
Reviews:
·Optimum Online
·Verizon FiOS

said by longstreet:

said by tmc8080:

Consider the size of Japan, compared to the United States, then look up how much money it costs to lay fiber, and re-evaluate that statement.

Trust me we want it. But . . .as I said above . .
We all know the density & size comparisons which are almost beside the point. There are a dozen or so cable and telephone giant companies to break-up and/or compete amongst the most profitable regions of the U.S. However, as long as you have companies who's interest in profit outstrips the public need for technology, an arcane/draconian copyright rules and regulations, and an economy teetering on the brink of another recession (oil / fuel prices & geopolitics to blame). Not to mention the U.S. is becoming a nation of OLD people(sorry to play the age card). We have many many disadvantages and distractions keeping this from becoming a true revolution... more like a rusty shopping cart wheel of change..


longstreet

join:2004-11-14
Plano, TX

3 edits

Part of the issue is that ISP's would rather hoard over their exclusive networks and squeeze as much blood from their customers as possible.

AT&T went bankrupt in the 80's laying cable and now everyone wants another company to do the same w/fiber?

I want fiber ::hell-yeah:: but I'm not as naive to believe a big corporation isn't considering the cost factor.

The corporation cares about 1 thing : money.


Ahrenl

join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA

No one is talking about wiring Montana or Idaho. We're talking about wiring, NYC, Boston, LA etc.

According to the last OECD report 79% of the US population lives near an urban center; there is no population density/geographic cost challenge difference compared to Japan for those people.

All those telcom's that went bankrupt laying cable (in the 90s anyway) was from laying long haul fiber that went unused because the last mile was too under-built to utilize it, so it lay dark, not generating revenue. I don't care if it cost you $100's to lay it, if it's not generating any revenue, bankruptcy is your only option.


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