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joako
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Gainesville, FL

reply to Doctor Olds
Re: 768kbps $10 DSL versus 768kbps $20 Naked DSL

The $10 deal is only for new customers. If you used to have DSL on that phone line and canceled it you are not eligible. And this price is for when you sign a 1-year contract, the standard FastAccess DSL pricing is with no term commitment and no activation fees.

$20 per month is the normal price for 786kbps in Bellsouth land. They are offering naked 786kbps DSL for the same exact price. In the past when they offered naked DSL in some areas where required by law the pricing was more expensive than line-share DSL. Comcast and other cable companies also charge more for their high-speed internet services when you do not purchase their cable television services.

Yes I know the pricing in Bellsouth-land is higher than in other regions. I'm sure that will be changing within the next year. Do keep in mind the pricing is based on a certain pricing model. Many factors such as population densities, regional bandwidth costs, local labor costs, unions, etc all play a part in the pricing. Yes they can just arbitrarily lower the prices but that doesn't fly with the bean counters. AT&T didn't raise your rates either. You aren't necessarily "entitled" to receive any particular rates (or discounts thereof). Comcast does the same with dissimilar pricing in different markets.
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Doctor Olds
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said by joako See Profile :

The $10 deal is only for new customers. If you used to have DSL on that phone line and canceled it you are not eligible. And this price is for when you sign a 1-year contract, the standard FastAccess DSL pricing is with no term commitment and no activation fees.

$20 per month is the normal price for 786kbps in Bellsouth land. They are offering naked 786kbps DSL for the same exact price. In the past when they offered naked DSL in some areas where required by law the pricing was more expensive than line-share DSL. Comcast and other cable companies also charge more for their high-speed internet services when you do not purchase their cable television services.

Yes I know the pricing in Bellsouth-land is higher than in other regions. I'm sure that will be changing within the next year. Do keep in mind the pricing is based on a certain pricing model. Many factors such as population densities, regional bandwidth costs, local labor costs, unions, etc all play a part in the pricing. Yes they can just arbitrarily lower the prices but that doesn't fly with the bean counters. AT&T didn't raise your rates either. You aren't necessarily "entitled" to receive any particular rates (or discounts thereof). Comcast does the same with dissimilar pricing in different markets.
Factually speaking it costs way much more to live on the West Coast than on the East Coast (also higher COL in the North East and South West US) and yet the pricing for DSL is lower on the West Coast, lower in the North East and also lower in the South West US Regions including non-SBC, non-Bellsouth territories. Since outside plant costs for maintenance also costs more in areas with higher costs of living, it sure is clear that DSL is less expensive to deliver than Bellsouth's pricing leads one to believe. Guess what that really means. Bellsouth has been gouging it's customer base for many, many Years and they did this far longer than the short time span that they have offered DSL to customers. That is the bottom line. Bellsouth inflated the price not based on anything other than they knew they could do as they please which is how all Monopolies work.
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Splitpair
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said by Doctor Olds See Profile :

Since outside plant costs for maintenance also costs more in areas with higher costs of living, it sure is clear that DSL is less expensive to deliver than Bellsouth's pricing leads one to believe.
That is simply untrue.

OSP maintenance costs are based on a well known formulas all based on subscriber miles which simply is how many miles of pairs are required to serve the subscriber base.

Generally speaking OSP maintenance per year costs are lower in the areas of a higher cost of living as subscriber density is also considerably higher resulting in more subscribers per mile of plant. Since it is the total number of miles of loop per subscriber deployed which determines the cost of maintaining that plant a smaller denser OSP with shorter loops will have considerable lower cost of maintenance compared to an out in the sticks lower cost of living area where each loop may be many miles per subscriber.

In fact it was the considerably higher deployment and maintenance costs of serving those out in the “country” that led to the formation of many rural Telco’s and the RUS funding.

Wayne
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Airwolf7
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Franklin, KY

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January 5th, @10:11AM

Do you and Doctor Olds chase each other around the site so that the two of you can argue.

You two are like two peas in a pod.


Splitpair
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said by Airwolf7 See Profile :

You two are like two peas in a pod.
Na he's a GM guy and I'm more of a Dodge leaning to Ford person.

Wayne
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