The Snowman
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2 edits | XP SP3 and what to expect
At the provided link you can download a pdf file of what xp sp3 will contain.....you can also download sp3 but this is not the final built so best wait.
»www.microsoft.com/downloads/deta···ylang=en
Basically Sp3 will offer very near NOTHING for the average home computer user. In fact, as stated in the pdf file SP3 will GIVE the average home computer user WHAT THE USER HAS DECLINED WHEN UPDATING.
As for the so-called "new features". I was able to download MMC 3.0 from microsoft. MMC 3.0 offers nothing to the Home User but is more directed at IT people.
MSXML6 also was downloaded from microsoft......along with THE SECURITY PATCH....so much for it being more secure as microsoft touted.
BLACK HOLE Router Detection: this by default is dis-abled in XP....ok, so what...simply enable it in the registry by making a new keyword. No biggie !
Certainly SP3 will offer a few "extras". however, you be the judge if they are actually of any value or interest.
SUMMERY:
If you keep your system properly updated and are not interest in a couple of new "toys" that sp3 will offer then definitely do not be fooled into believing that you will be getting any greatly enhanced security by employing sp3.......read the PDF file for yourself and decide.
There was only one update that I actually considered a security enhancement. |
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mike31mets
join:2004-10-30
Bronx, NY
| said by The Snowman  : At the provided link you can download a pdf file of what xp sp3 will contain.....you can also download sp3 but this is not the final built so best wait. » www.microsoft.com/downloads/deta···ylang=en Basically Sp3 will offer very near NOTHING for the average home computer user. In fact, as stated in the pdf file SP3 will GIVE the average home computer user WHAT THE USER HAS DECLINED WHEN UPDATING. As for the so-called "new features". I was able to download MMC 3.0 from microsoft. MMC 3.0 offers nothing to the Home User but is more directed at IT people. MSXML6 also was downloaded from microsoft......along with THE SECURITY PATCH....so much for it being more secure as microsoft touted. BLACK HOLE Router Detection: this by default is dis-abled in XP....ok, so what...simply enable it in the registry by making a new keyword. No biggie ! Certainly SP3 will offer a few "extras". however, you be the judge if they are actually of any value or interest. SUMMERY: If you keep your system properly updated and are not interest in a couple of new "toys" that sp3 will offer then definitely do not be fooled into believing that you will be getting any greatly enhanced security by employing sp3.......read the PDF file for yourself and decide. There was only one update that I actually considered a security enhancement. What was the security enhancement? |
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The Snowman
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join:2007-05-20 | reply to The Snowman
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Please no one mis-understand what I have said....to some they may actually feel sp3 offers some extra security...that of course is up to them entirely. |
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mike31mets
join:2004-10-30
Bronx, NY
| said by The Snowman : microsoft kernel mode cryptograhic module Please no one mis-understand what I have said....to some they may actually feel sp3 offers some extra security...that of course is up to them entirely. Yea I should have been a bit more clearer. I understood that was only your opinion. |
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Mele20
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I'm very interested in what that pdf has to say. So, I clicked on your link. I got neatly sidetracked by Microsoft and can't get to your link and also can't get the Silverlight (whatever the hell that is) to download on Fx. I got stuck. Good.  I'm on my virtual machine which has the MS spyware so I hope MS is taking note. 
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Cudni
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Someshire | You could have answered No to question 
however, on my machine, using either IE or FF the link shows no pop-up
Cudni |
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Cudni
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said by The Snowman : If you keep your system properly updated Therefore, have the latest pack installed
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Mele20
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Yeah..I should have said no. 
I always get asked to participate in stuff almost every time I go to Microsoft site. Maybe because I am a longtime survey member and do all the surveys? Plus, I bet I got this screen because this computer has the Microsoft "spyware" on it...the thingy that will give me a free Vista Ultimate Disk in March. I just hope Microsoft is noting that their Silverlight stuff doesn't work right.
But what is installed?? I'm going to see if I can find it. Ahhh...I don't have javascript disabled in Fx. It's two javascript files. I guess if I close and reopen the browsers then I can get to the Download site in a normal way.
I've posted about this in Microsoft Help. I don't want to continue this here as its hijacking the thread.
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Grail Knight
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No popup for the .pdf link and it opens fine in Fx. |
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jbob
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I think the best advantage is having all the SPs rolled into one which makes creating a Slipstreamed install CD much more easier. |
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Grail Knight
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Thanks for the link.
As to my opinion of Sp3 it is still in beta and anything is possible up until the day it goes Gold. |
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HA Nut
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said by Mele20 :and also can't get the Silverlight (whatever the hell that is) Microsoft Silverlight »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Silverlight
(If you are running FF NoScript, it blocks Silverlight by default.) |
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jaykaykay
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"Windows® XP Service Pack 3 (SP3) includes all previously released updates for the operating system."
I think not. I am as updated as I want to be and wouldn't like having MS dump in those so called updates I've chosen not to have. Thanks for the forewarning! |
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said by jbob :I think the best advantage is having all the SPs rolled into one which makes creating a Slipstreamed install CD much more easier. Exactly. I'm sick of downloading the 100+ security updates released post-SP2 everytime I have to reload a system!
And, of course there's not going to be hardly any new features in SP3. Vista is having a hard enough time as is... no reason to give people more reasons to stick with XP.
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Jan Janowski
join:2000-06-18
Skokie, IL | reply to The Snowman
Didn't I read somewhere that SP3 is supposed to make the computer run 10% faster over same system with SP2..... What about that?
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swhx7
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As noted in my post here: »[News] Microsoft lets everyone try Windows XP SP3 , my interpretation was that SP3 will install WGA for those who don't already have it. RedXII1234 disagrees however.
And the stuff about Silverlight on the Microsoft site almost suggests they're going to expect everyone to install that junk in order to get updates. Did it look that way to anyone else? |
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brianiscool
join:2000-08-16
Miami, FL | reply to The Snowman
Does SP3 fix the memory problem when you open up too many windows? |
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The Snowman
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1 edit | reply to The Snowman
Hi Folks......Happy New Year (belated) to one and all.
What I do find interesting is that the microsoft ISO securty updates (all)(not related to sp3) is a whopping 1200 mb's and yet Sp3 is only a little over 300mb's but claims to provide ALL security updates....microsoft needs to get the story straight...LOL.
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cowboyro
join:2000-10-11
Shelton, CT | reply to The Snowman
SP3 boosts the performance of the computer. Maybe you won't see so much on a very fast machine, but the boost is obvious on an older one. |
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swhx7
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2 edits | reply to The Snowman
said by The Snowman : What I do find interesting is that the microsoft ISO securty updates (all)(not related to sp3) is a whopping 1200 mb's and yet Sp3 is only a little over 300mb's but claims to provide ALL security updates....microsoft needs to get the story straight...LOL.
A lot of the older ones are replaced by more recent ones.
Edit for clearer phrasing |
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