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curls310

join:2007-09-26
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will verizon use this for fios tv?

i sure hope so. we'll have unlimited hd with this and iptv.

patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY

said by curls310 See Profile :

i sure hope so. we'll have unlimited hd with this and iptv.
So many technical mistakes. FIOS uses a fundamentally different kind of box. It has to have MOCA. Next, anything with DOCSIS, either the device, or the DOCSIS circuitry is useless. FIOS does not use DOCSIS anywhere. FIOS uses a 750mhz "plant" (remember the ONT is a HFC Fiber Node), it was a design decision from day one, Verizon isn't going to be increasing the bandwidth on that anytime soon. There isn't even a standard out for RF broadcast tv over PON at 1 GHZ.


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Fios uses a 54-862/870MHz 'plant'.

Where are you getting the information that FiOS is 'capped' at 750MHz???

Go back and read the video specs on the most common Tellabs 612 ONT that Verizon uses: »www.tellabs.com/products/1000/tl···_612.pdf

Tellabs gives it a spec in at 870MHz.

Still the same 1550nm wavelength supplied video over the PON, just add ONT capable of RF output for 23 more 6MHz 256QAM channels, the current ONT's might actually be able to stretch the extra headroom already, the next generation of QAM/IP boxes will fit in nicely.

The cables and splitters are already up to spec, and no Interference to MoCA occurs until 1125MHz.

No DOCISS needed with FiOS, 1125MHz-1425MHz MoCA handles 2-way Data and IPTV on the COAX.

1310mm and 1490nm light handle it on the fiber.

Oddly enough, newer cable boxes will also incorporate MoCA, as other cable operators are clamoring for the Multi-Room DVR concept, which needs MoCA connection between boxes on the COAX network to communicate with each other.
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patcat88

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Number mix up, my fault.


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said by curls310 See Profile :

i sure hope so. we'll have unlimited hd with this and iptv.
So many technical mistakes. FIOS uses a fundamentally different kind of box. It has to have MOCA. Next, anything with DOCSIS, either the device, or the DOCSIS circuitry is useless. FIOS does not use DOCSIS anywhere. FIOS uses a 750mhz "plant" (remember the ONT is a HFC Fiber Node), it was a design decision from day one, Verizon isn't going to be increasing the bandwidth on that anytime soon. There isn't even a standard out for RF broadcast tv over PON at 1 GHZ.
The new MPEG4 boxes do have MOCA options available. The current FIOS boxes aren't "fundamentally different", it's pretty much the same boxes many cable companies use with the addition of MOCA. The latest DCH boxes from Moto and these new MPEG4 boxes could all be used on either FIOS or cable with little issue as they all have MOCA included or as on option. DOCSIS tuners are probably already in some of the current FIOS boxes, they're just sitting there unused though.

"Fundamentally different" would be ATT Uverse or even DBS boxes as neither of those can use the Moto cable boxes.

Also, currently FIOS uses 860 Mhz of video bandwidth not 750 Mhz. As far as I know, that's more a limitation of the tuner in the cable boxes, not of PON technology. So expanding the video bandwidth to 1 Ghz should be a no brainer if they use these new boxes.
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