Re: U.S internet? in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r19755074 en Wed, 09 Dec 2009 03:24:26 EDT Wed, 09 Dec 2009 03:24:26 EDT Re: U.S internet? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19759007 BF69 :
said by james See Profile :

When the SNES came out in 1990, it was $200, considering minimum wage has almost DOUBLED since then what does that say about the price of consoles? Interestingly, in 1985, the NES also cost $200, and years later, the N64 was released for $200. All those came with a single controller and a single game, just like the base system does today.

The prices haven't gone up, you're just discovering how much your parents spent on you when you were a kid.
The Intellivison cost $300 in 1980. That's like $700 today. And people gripe about the PS3. The averge income in 1980 was $15,000 a year.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19759007 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 00:15:44 EDT Re: U.S internet? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19757103 hayabusa3303 :
said by bogey780 See Profile :

Oh c'mon what would YOU know? :) ;) hehe
Bad day i guess. i dont know :p]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19757103 Mon, 07 Jan 2008 19:01:57 EDT Re: U.S internet? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19756931 ptrowski :
said by R4M0N See Profile :

said by ptrowski See Profile :

said by ztmike See Profile :

Eh, thats going to cost then, wonder what the price tag on that is. :hmm:

Being a gamer is becoming ever so damn expensive. Seems to me like the console makers are forgetting who their target is.
Exactly. Somewhat off topic, but when I bought my 360 I did not have a HDTV. I was kind of pissed when a good portion of the writing on some games was unreadable.
LOL... I have the same beef with my PS3 :D
That sucks! I can say that the issue went away after the upgrade to a HDTV.
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said by ptrowski See Profile :

said by ztmike See Profile :

Eh, thats going to cost then, wonder what the price tag on that is. :hmm:

Being a gamer is becoming ever so damn expensive. Seems to me like the console makers are forgetting who their target is.
Exactly. Somewhat off topic, but when I bought my 360 I did not have a HDTV. I was kind of pissed when a good portion of the writing on some games was unreadable.
LOL... I have the same beef with my PS3 :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19756450 Mon, 07 Jan 2008 17:03:32 EDT Re: U.S internet? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19756412 koolkid1563 : Simple. The same way the current set top boxes get their video...through the ethernet port to the network...Or you could use an HPNA3 to ethernet bridge and run your 360 off of the phone line or coax line, either way will still work. Network does not always mean internet. You can have a network connection without it going to the internet. It really isn't that difficult to understand, the 360 will be just like an IPTV set top box.

AT&T's U-verse video never once touches the internet. It is all kept on their private network. The only thing on U-verse that touches the internet is the actual internet. U-verse video uses the Internet Protocol, but is never actually put on the internet. Think of it as more of an intranet.

Edit: Fixed a grammar error.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19756412 Mon, 07 Jan 2008 16:57:30 EDT Re: U.S internet? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19756349 hayabusa3303 :
said by Matt See Profile :

said by hayabusa3303 See Profile :

said by bogey780 See Profile :

No itt's not. IPTV is not internet TV.
You need the internet for it to work. what does the i stand for in IPTV then?
No, you don't. IP = Internet Protocol, but you don't need to access the internet for IPTV to work.

You think AT&T is transmitting their IPTV across the internet?
How is the 360 going to connect unless you make a usb device for it. See what im getting at here. There is no other connections right now besides internet to the 360.

No i know at&t is not transmitting across the net. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19756349 Mon, 07 Jan 2008 16:47:05 EDT Re: U.S internet? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19756232 Matt :
said by hayabusa3303 See Profile :

said by bogey780 See Profile :

No itt's not. IPTV is not internet TV.
You need the internet for it to work. what does the i stand for in IPTV then?
No, you don't. IP = Internet Protocol, but you don't need to access the internet for IPTV to work.

You think AT&T is transmitting their IPTV across the internet?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19756232 Mon, 07 Jan 2008 16:26:54 EDT Re: U.S internet? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19756161 hayabusa3303 :
said by bogey780 See Profile :

No itt's not. IPTV is not internet TV.
You need the internet for it to work. what does the i stand for in IPTV then?

Edit it still runs though for dsl or cable modem to make the 360 connect. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19756161 Mon, 07 Jan 2008 16:16:04 EDT Re: U.S internet? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19755510 bogey780 : No itt's not. IPTV is not internet TV.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19755510 Mon, 07 Jan 2008 14:26:29 EDT Re: U.S internet? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19755074 james : When the SNES came out in 1990, it was $200, considering minimum wage has almost DOUBLED since then what does that say about the price of consoles? Interestingly, in 1985, the NES also cost $200, and years later, the N64 was released for $200. All those came with a single controller and a single game, just like the base system does today.

The prices haven't gone up, you're just discovering how much your parents spent on you when you were a kid.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19755074 Mon, 07 Jan 2008 13:08:36 EDT Re: U.S internet? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19754976 hayabusa3303 :
said by READ :

Is for their IPTV service which IS NOT SUBJET to the the HSI service caps!!!
Caps are still in place over IPTV its still internet. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19754976 Mon, 07 Jan 2008 12:55:12 EDT Re: U.S internet? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19754228 anon : Is for their IPTV service which IS NOT SUBJET to the the HSI service caps!!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19754228 Mon, 07 Jan 2008 12:04:14 EDT Re: U.S internet? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19754660 anon : We have 3 TVs in a 3 person household (mom, dad, son), and its still an issue - dad has to send mom to the bedroom to watch TV while dad gets his 360 fix :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19754660 Mon, 07 Jan 2008 12:04:09 EDT Re: U.S internet? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19754383 gaforces : Having everything on the same box, you might have to choose between watching/recording a show or movie, or playing that game.
Then, for family's, mom or dad wants to watch their shows, or let the kids play a game :o]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19754383 Mon, 07 Jan 2008 11:01:46 EDT Re: U.S internet? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19754323 bogey780 : You have to have an IPTV infrastructure in place.

In the US this means AT&T or a local independant who runs MS Mediaroom.

The bits are streamed outside of the "internet" part of the connection. It's IP...TV and not I...PTV.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19754323 Mon, 07 Jan 2008 10:50:40 EDT Re: U.S internet? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19754308 DMS1 : You misunderstand the model. BT already sell IPTV-over-VDSL in a similar way to AT&T do with U-Verse. This deal allows Xbox 360 owners to use the Xbox as the STB rather than needing a separate STB.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19754308 Mon, 07 Jan 2008 10:48:35 EDT Re: U.S internet? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19754297 ptrowski :
said by ztmike See Profile :

Eh, thats going to cost then, wonder what the price tag on that is. :hmm:

Being a gamer is becoming ever so damn expensive. Seems to me like the console makers are forgetting who their target is.
Exactly. Somewhat off topic, but when I bought my 360 I did not have a HDTV. I was kind of pissed when a good portion of the writing on some games was unreadable.
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Being a gamer is becoming ever so damn expensive. Seems to me like the console makers are forgetting who their target is. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19754254 Mon, 07 Jan 2008 10:38:57 EDT Re: U.S internet? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19754216 Matt : This content will be streamed by the DSL or Cable provider from their headend equipment or central office and will not be counted against the bit caps. It'll come from their equipment just like video on demand does now.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19754216 Mon, 07 Jan 2008 10:33:31 EDT U.S internet? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19754197 ztmike : When 360 and ps3 iptv do hit the U.S and they offer streaming channels whats that going to do for those people who are on monthly caps? Not to mention Comcast and their *secret* caps.

Hell will 6/384 even be enough for streaming video? I know it ain't for HD streams.

I'm not sure what their internet speed offerings are in British, but i have a feeling Microsoft choose them because of this reason with the American internet companys.

**Anyone know if theres a live stream somewhere of CES 2008?
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