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pnh102
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 Really?

Verizon Wireless has 63.7 million customers.

AT&T Wireless has 65 million customers.

T-Mobile has 27 million customers.

Verizon (landline) has 42.3 million customers.

I don't know who Comcast hired to do its counting, but if a quick web search can show that they aren't anywhere close to being the nation's 4th largest phone company, that's pretty sad.
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Residential phone company....

"PHILADELPHIA--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Comcast Corporation (Nasdaq:CMCSK) (Nasdaq:CMCSA), the nation’s leading provider of entertainment, information and communications, today announced it has become the fourth-largest residential phone service provider in the United States"


pnh102
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said by ptrowski See Profile :

Residential phone company....
Who is to say that the customers of the companies I listed don't use their phones from these companies as "residential phones."

A phone is a phone is a phone. People use them to call other people. It doesn't matter if is VOIP-based, landline, wireless or uses 2 cans and a string. They all do the same thing. A VOIP-based phone is no more or no less of a phone than a wireless or landline phone.
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said by pnh102 See Profile :

said by ptrowski See Profile :

Residential phone company....
Who is to say that the customers of the companies I listed don't use their phones from these companies as "residential phones."

A phone is a phone is a phone. People use them to call other people. It doesn't matter if is VOIP-based, landline, wireless or uses 2 cans and a string. They all do the same thing. A VOIP-based phone is no more or no less of a phone than a wireless or landline phone.
I think everyone realizes there is a difference between residential phone service and wireless phone service.


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said by ptrowski See Profile :

I think everyone realizes there is a difference between residential phone service and wireless phone service.
I don't think so. Many landline phone companies in the USA are losing business permanently as customers port their service to wireless phones as well as VOIP. All three types of service draw from the same pool of customers.

What I am saying is no different than claiming that cable companies compete with satellite TV providers for the same customers.
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said by pnh102 See Profile :

said by ptrowski See Profile :

I think everyone realizes there is a difference between residential phone service and wireless phone service.
I don't think so. Many landline phone companies in the USA are losing business permanently as customers port their service to wireless phones as well as VOIP. All three types of service draw from the same pool of customers.

What I am saying is no different than claiming that cable companies compete with satellite TV providers for the same customers.
Yes, some people do that, but it is not considered a residential phone. Since that happens you will see wireless companies saying they added more subscribers.


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said by ptrowski See Profile :

Yes, some people do that, but it is not considered a residential phone. Since that happens you will see wireless companies saying they added more subscribers.
Well over time, wireless companies have been adding more subscribers, at the expense of the landline companies. More and more people simply don't see the need for any landline-based service for their phone needs.
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djrobx

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We get your point, but you are splitting hairs. "Residential" may not be the perfect term to describe hardwired home phone service, but most do understand its distinction from cellular providers.


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said by djrobx See Profile :

We get your point, but you are splitting hairs.
I would say I was combining them, not splitting them.
said by djrobx See Profile :

"Residential" may not be the perfect term to describe hardwired home phone service, but most do understand its distinction from cellular providers.
But if we are going to make the distinction, then we must apply that to VOIP and landline as well. We've seen some pretty spectacular failures in VOIP when compared to landline phone service. In light of this, it would be disingenuous to describe VOIP providers as "residential phone" providers when they clearly are "different."
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When my Time Warner installation was complete, my telephone service works nearly identically to how it worked when AT&T provided service. It's functionally the same hardwired land line service that works with my home phones and faxes, it's just provided in a different manner.

Using your logic, you wouldn't be able to compare DSL to Cable as ISPs, because they have completely different delivery mechanisms with different failure modes.


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Ahh, yes its functionality is the same... but is your 911 the same... hmmm...


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said by anon156879654 :

Ahh, yes its functionality is the same... but is your 911 the same... hmmm...
*HERE* 911 works fine!

I hit 911 and the police show up without me saying a word.
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Who is third?

1. AT&T
2. Verizon
3. ????
4. Comcast
5. Embarq

Landlines Not Cell.


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Comcast: The Big NEW expensive phone company


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I assume Quest is third.


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said by djrobx See Profile :

Using your logic, you wouldn't be able to compare DSL to Cable as ISPs, because they have completely different delivery mechanisms with different failure modes.
Where did I say that? I routinely compare Internet service provided by cable, DSL, wireless or whatever means. All of these products, regardless of the delivery mechanism or underlying technology, are the same thing. The same is true of phone service.

Refer to my example of comparing cable TV to satellite TV. Both are the same product as far as the end user is concerned.
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said by dadkins See Profile :

I hit 911 and the police show up without me saying a word.
I think as technology progresses, 911 on wireless phones will work the same as it does with landlines. In a few years, this won't be an issue at all.
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WERE talking about LAND line NOT

Verizon Wireless or att wireless or t-mobile
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pnh102
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said by Anonymous_ See Profile :

WERE talking about LAND line NOT
VOIP phone service is not the same as landline service. Just like wireless service is not the same as landline service. Comcast's press release is comparing apples to oranges and trying to claim it has 4th place in a fruit contest, but they are ignoring the pears and bananas at the same time.

The only valid comparison here is all phone providers against all other phone providers.
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yes it is landline

Cable phone = Digital phone NOT VOIP
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