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bgraham

join:2001-03-15
Smithtown, NY

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Regarding broadband penetration

They have a company to run and profits to be made so who is expecting them to run fiber in rural Maine.

NY, NJ etc are much better places to pick up customers.


Nightfall
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said by bgraham:

They have a company to run and profits to be made so who is expecting them to run fiber in rural Maine.

NY, NJ etc are much better places to pick up customers.
Correct. Which is why these fiber deployments are going on in areas where people are going to buy the service, where people can afford to pay for it, and you have a large penetration of people.


james

join:2001-02-26
CWCville USA

reply to bgraham
Isn't the whole point that they were given special treatment by the government, on the condition that a certain percentage of their deployments be in rural areas?



morbo
Complete Your Transaction

join:2002-01-22
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that and the billions is tax breaks, yes.



james

join:2001-02-26
CWCville USA

Doesn't a tax break count as special treatment?


Xure

join:2003-11-14
Beverly Hills, CA

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reply to Nightfall

said by Nightfall:

Correct. Which is why these fiber deployments are going on in areas where
people are going to buy the service, where people can afford to pay for it, and
you have a large penetration of people.
Yes.. they will certainly deploy only in the areas where they can have this large penetration of people.

You have the Big Telco MO down to a tee. If the big ol' expensive phone company can't have this, they will not deploy. Thank you FCC!

jjeffeory

join:2002-12-04
USA

reply to bgraham
They should run fiber everywhere. We had the USF to help with the costs and where did the money go? Making money is great, but so is progress on all fronts. This is a utility like power or regular phone that should be available everywhere. Oh, and what is the USF for?



zen6

@rr.com

The usf went to verizon and att profits.



tc1uscg

join:2005-03-09
Saint Clair Shores, MI

reply to jjeffeory

said by jjeffeory:

They should run fiber everywhere. We had the USF to help with the costs and where did the money go? Making money is great, but so is progress on all fronts. This is a utility like power or regular phone that should be available everywhere. Oh, and what is the USF for?
And to think, many decades ago, they said the same thing bout running party lines (open wire) from arm to arm, pole to pole. They had to start somewhere and it's been a never ending battle. So, why do they not want to deploy fiber? Because there is more then one big boy on the block and if they have an all exclusive area (cherry picking), they don't want it.. VZ is still unable to see ANY reason to deploy FIOS in the Detroit metro area (much less rural area) because Comcast, WOW, TW, and AT&T have the market all but sowed up. That's why I don't use VZ for ANYTHING and will use PAY AS YOU GO before I'll ever use their crappy wireless service. They have a right to turn a profit and I have the right to not use their service(s)...


bear73
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join:2001-06-09
Grand Forks Afb, ND

reply to james

said by james:

Doesn't a tax break count as special treatment?
[sarcasm] no, tax breaks are something the rich and powerful get every day... [/sarcasm] (unfortunately,thats more true than not in the last 5 years)


bear73
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join:2001-06-09
Grand Forks Afb, ND

reply to jjeffeory
USF is for providing basic POTS, not internet. The laws need to be changed to provide USF funds for broadband penetration (1+Mbps) This is the biggest reason people have been pushing for broadband to be labled a Utility like power, water, and phone.



alex goldman

@qwest.net

reply to zen6
I talked to a WISP in Colorado who complained that his neighbors who live there the whole year didn't qualify for USF because their town had 1,000 people in it, but that the ski shacks on the slopes, occupied a month each year, did qualify for USF.


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