Re: Regarding broadband penetration in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r19763048 en Wed, 02 Dec 2009 10:53:50 EDT Wed, 02 Dec 2009 10:53:50 EDT Re: Regarding broadband penetration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19769021 anon : I talked to a WISP in Colorado who complained that his neighbors who live there the whole year didn't qualify for USF because their town had 1,000 people in it, but that the ski shacks on the slopes, occupied a month each year, did qualify for USF.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19769021 Wed, 09 Jan 2008 16:32:06 EDT Re: Regarding broadband penetration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19767496 bear73 : USF is for providing basic POTS, not internet. The laws need to be changed to provide USF funds for broadband penetration (1+Mbps) This is the biggest reason people have been pushing for broadband to be labled a Utility like power, water, and phone.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19767496 Wed, 09 Jan 2008 11:30:32 EDT Re: Regarding broadband penetration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19767459 bear73 :
said by james See Profile :

Doesn't a tax break count as special treatment?
[sarcasm] no, tax breaks are something the rich and powerful get every day... [/sarcasm] (unfortunately,thats more true than not in the last 5 years)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19767459 Wed, 09 Jan 2008 11:24:26 EDT Re: Regarding broadband penetration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19765651 tc1uscg :
said by jjeffeory See Profile :

They should run fiber everywhere. We had the USF to help with the costs and where did the money go? Making money is great, but so is progress on all fronts. This is a utility like power or regular phone that should be available everywhere. Oh, and what is the USF for?
And to think, many decades ago, they said the same thing bout running party lines (open wire) from arm to arm, pole to pole. They had to start somewhere and it's been a never ending battle. So, why do they not want to deploy fiber? Because there is more then one big boy on the block and if they have an all exclusive area (cherry picking), they don't want it.. VZ is still unable to see ANY reason to deploy FIOS in the Detroit metro area (much less rural area) because Comcast, WOW, TW, and AT&T have the market all but sowed up. That's why I don't use VZ for ANYTHING and will use PAY AS YOU GO before I'll ever use their crappy wireless service. They have a right to turn a profit and I have the right to not use their service(s)... :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19765651 Wed, 09 Jan 2008 00:44:04 EDT Re: Regarding broadband penetration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19764870 anon : The usf went to verizon and att profits.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19764870 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 21:57:47 EDT Re: Regarding broadband penetration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19763048 jjeffeory : They should run fiber everywhere. We had the USF to help with the costs and where did the money go? Making money is great, but so is progress on all fronts. This is a utility like power or regular phone that should be available everywhere. Oh, and what is the USF for?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19763048 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 17:16:41 EDT Re: Regarding broadband penetration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19762782 Xure :
said by Nightfall See Profile :

Correct. Which is why these fiber deployments are going on in areas where
people are going to buy the service, where people can afford to pay for it, and you have a large penetration of people.
Yes.. they will certainly deploy only in the areas where they can have this large penetration of people.

You have the Big Telco MO down to a tee. If the big ol' expensive phone company can't have this, they will not deploy. Thank you FCC!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19762782 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 16:29:23 EDT Re: Regarding broadband penetration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19762366 james : Doesn't a tax break count as special treatment?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19762366 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 15:27:11 EDT Re: Regarding broadband penetration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19762354 morbo : that and the billions is tax breaks, yes.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19762354 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 15:25:50 EDT Re: Regarding broadband penetration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19762078 james : Isn't the whole point that they were given special treatment by the government, on the condition that a certain percentage of their deployments be in rural areas?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19762078 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 14:40:17 EDT Re: Regarding broadband penetration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19761874 Nightfall :
said by bgraham See Profile :

They have a company to run and profits to be made so who is expecting them to run fiber in rural Maine.

NY, NJ etc are much better places to pick up customers.
Correct. Which is why these fiber deployments are going on in areas where people are going to buy the service, where people can afford to pay for it, and you have a large penetration of people.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19761874 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 14:10:32 EDT Regarding broadband penetration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19761772 bgraham : They have a company to run and profits to be made so who is expecting them to run fiber in rural Maine.

NY, NJ etc are much better places to pick up customers.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19761772 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 13:55:45 EDT