telcolackey
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January 9th, @10:02AM
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Re: The tubes are full!!
said by cableties  :I just recall that AT&T Whitacre fool crying the "tubes are gonna burst"... yet really? Just because your driveway is really, really wide doesn't mean you can get to the city any faster during rush hour. |
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MattE
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| said by telcolackey :said by cableties :I just recall that AT&T Whitacre fool crying the "tubes are gonna burst"... yet really? Just because your driveway is really, really wide doesn't mean you can get to the city any faster during rush hour. Amen brother. |
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kyler13
Is your fiber grounded?
join:2006-12-12
Arnold, MD | reply to telcolackey
No, but you and your wife can leave at the same time in the morning. Bandwidth is often confused as being purely about speed when in fact it's just as much about capacity. |
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MattE
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| said by kyler13 :No, but you and your wife can leave at the same time in the morning. Bandwidth is often confused as being purely about speed when in fact it's just as much about capacity. Yeah, but one of you still has to wait when the road narrows to one lane.
I think his point was, unless the band-end (back haul) infrastructure is upgraded, the last mile upgrades don't matter. For pure internet speed anyway.
Luckily, it seems like Verizon has been pretty good about upgrading their back hauls if necessary, or at least planning for a reasonable over subscription ratio. |
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kyler13
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Arnold, MD
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| All I know is that over my 15 Mbps connection, I can't get more than 3Mbps on a download from Microsoft's HD WMV content site. But I can download 5 large files simultaneously at 3 Mbps.  |
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KCrimson
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| said by kyler13 :All I know is that over my 15 Mbps connection, I can't get more than 3Mbps on a download from Microsoft's HD WMV content site. But I can download 5 large files simultaneously at 3 Mbps. Is it only Microsoft's site, or is that for all distant sites? Have you tried something like apple.com that also has large files available from the left coast? |
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joker5656
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| said by KCrimson :said by kyler13 :All I know is that over my 15 Mbps connection, I can't get more than 3Mbps on a download from Microsoft's HD WMV content site. But I can download 5 large files simultaneously at 3 Mbps. Is it only Microsoft's site, or is that for all distant sites? Have you tried something like apple.com that also has large files available from the left coast? its not just your download that makes it fast, you could have a 1,000,000meg's down and still receive the same. the person your downloading from needs a fast upload connection for you to get a fast download, and also u have the distance and all that technical BS to. |
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KCrimson
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| You replied to me - I was the one asking the question about whether he tried to download large files from other distant servers. Didn't you think that I asked that question for precisely the reason that you are attempting to explain?
Anyway... I tried a download from Microsoft's HD WMV content server - I too am seeing about 350KB//sec - it's Microsoft's pipe that needs Drano or a wide bore snake. I downloaded a 165MB disk image from apple.com and got over 2.1 MB/sec (also on the west coast). |
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kyler13
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Arnold, MD
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| You guys missed my point entirely. I was limited to a 3Mbps download speed per file by Microsoft, but I was able to download multiple files from Microsoft, each at 3Mbps. Obviously the pipe between Microsoft and myself was wide enough, and Microsoft may have been speed limiting individual downloads. It's just an example where greater bandwidth is useful for multiple simultaneous connections. |
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bunklung
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Northampton, MA
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said by telcolackey :said by cableties :I just recall that AT&T Whitacre fool crying the "tubes are gonna burst"... yet really? Just because your driveway is really, really wide doesn't mean you can get to the city any faster during rush hour. The analogy with Fios is more so:
Just because your driveway, neighborhood streets, and county roads are really really wide, doesn't mean you can get to the city in another jurisdiction any faster during rush hour.
Within Verizon's network, whether it's last mile, regonal, or long haul, they designed it from the ground up.
If we were talking about other network technologies, that oversubscribe, advertise higher rates then available, use vines and sand to throttle traffic, nontransparent caps, or share last mile connections amongst 250 to 500 people... Well, then I'd totally follow your analogy. I'd probably add one more thing about the pavement being pitted or something |
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