supergirl
join:2007-03-20
Pensacola, FL
 ·Cox VOIP
·Skype
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 ·AT&T Southeast
·magicjack.com
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Re: Don't mess with my connection.
said by Airwolf7  :The first time this impacts my connection by slowing it down, increasing my latency, or keeps me from downloading legal content I'm gone. This isn't smart business policy. If you Google something, say a movie, and when you click the results, you get redirected to AT&T's ad page for unresolved URLs? Google indexes everything possible. Some things might be questionable but not illegal but blocked anyway.
How about a website selling MP3s from Indie artists being blocked? Or, blocking Yahoo msr transfers? Blocking VOIP apps? Blocking used DVDs or CDs on Amazon or Ebay?
This sounds like a clear "interfering with interstate commerce" situation. Is AT&T just looking for an excuse by Congress to enact "network neutrality" legislation?
Also, how does this affect their safe harbor status? If they have these filters and some bozo has illegal content on a homepage on AT&T, no DMCA takedown necessary just sue AT&T. The just took on the "policing role" so content on their network illegally is a lawsuit waiting to happen.
It also sounds like Sprint's deal where they change the contract terms and now all contracts are cancelled.
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ronpin
Imagine Reality
join:2002-12-06
Nirvana | Will it block NSA piracy of my privacy???
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swhx7
Premium
join:2006-07-23
Elbonia
·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to supergirl
Re: Don't mess with my connection.
I don't think they're going to try the things you mention - interfering with searches, purchases etc.. From what I've read in the articles about this, it seems they're going to inspect packets for the actual files.
To the grandparent poster's question, I wonder how it will affect connections. If they split the stream and inspect a copy while letting the original packets go thru, it would not slow things at all. If they are intecepting and literally filtering, it would be make the whole internet service sluggish. |
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anonymousp
@rr.com
| Virus scanning servers that do this for companies add around 20ms of extra latency. So people web surfing probably wont notice a thing. Gamers wont be happy though. The problem is these fall apart when the files being scanned get into the GB range. Maybe they will have some smart way of doing it with a smaller set of information. |
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ackman
join:2000-10-04
Acworth, GA | reply to ronpin
Re: Will it block NSA piracy of my privacy???
All the good muddy-boot Republicans will magically discover the illegal AT&T spying once Hillary is elected. In a heartbeat, protecting the US Constitution will become Republican job #1. |
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Homer J
Mmmm, Free Goo
join:2000-10-05
Springfield | Let's hope the day never comes that Hilary is elected to anything. |
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Trollhawk
join:2005-05-28 | Too late? |
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ackman
join:2000-10-04
Acworth, GA
| reply to Homer J
said by Homer J :Let's hope the day never comes that Hilary is elected to anything. You ever heard of an obscure little thing called "New York"?
Now, I'm not a Hillary fan, but I'm just curious to know what you find so bad about her. At least one thing I've discovered over the past decade is that most everything "evil" about Hillary was invented by the right wing attack dogs. I've got some issues with her husband's trade policies, so the Clintons are not beyond reproach. But please, tell me what she has done that makes it so horrible if she were to be "elected to anything". |
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elvey
Spamassassin
join:2001-02-17
San Francisco, CA
·Pacific Bell - SBC
·Comcast
·SONIC.NET
2 edits | reply to supergirl
Re: Don't mess with my connection.
said by supergirl :This isn't smart business policy. .... This sounds like a clear "interfering with interstate commerce" situation. Is AT&T just looking for an excuse by Congress to enact "network neutrality" legislation? Also, how does this affect their safe harbor status? If they have these filters and some bozo has illegal content on a homepage on AT&T, no DMCA takedown necessary just sue AT&T. The just took on the "policing role" so content on their network illegally is a lawsuit waiting to happen. Yeah, that's what I have been thinking. I mean either AT&T's counsel has been asleep at the wheel, or this retroactive immunity shit has made them think they can do absolutely whatever the f they want to support corporate friends (**AA, etc.), and get away with it.
THIS MUST NOT STAND!
Perhaps this will be the opening needed to bust 'em for their organized crime involvement. If they can (try to) keep file sharers off their network (even when its fair use, though admittedly that's not the norm) then certainly they can be expected to limit the actions of criminal abusers of their network when they are notified of or are aware of their blatant abuse.
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