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iphone - will be here?

would we see iphone in canada?

or we are just doomed to buy from US and use crappy plan from Canada?

what do you think...
Tikker_LoS

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Re: iphone - will be here?

i'm sure it'll get here eventually

I don't see the appeal to drinking the Apple Kool-aid myself, but to each their own
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Rogers doesn't want to lower their data rates, so until that happens we will not see it.

So, right before the spectrum auction...

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Re: iphone - will be here?

Thanks.

Maybe by then the price will be lower
(the iphone that is)

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Interesting that it would take so long for Rogers to get a deal. Rogers is the type of company who seeks out such partnerships because it doesn't want its own brand to be so prominent.

Remember that Apple gets a big chunk of the monthly revenu generated from iphone customers, so Rogers may not be willing to part with that much money every month.

And there is also the question of whether Fido will be able to sell the iphone too.

Remember that in the grand scheme of things, Rogers is small potatoes. Indian networks activate more new customers in one month than Rogers has in its installed base.

Rogers would also need to decide what features to cripple in the Iphone since Rogers'crippling policies may be different from AT&T's. And Apple may be reluctant to allow Rogers to cripple phones more than AT&T cripples them. (remember that locking phones isn't the only thing networks do, they also customoze software/menus to remove/add options.
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As long as Apple isn't willing to budge, unlikely.

Rogers has a GSM monopoly here.

Any reason why the HTC Touch from Bell wouldn't cut it for you?
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Re: iphone - will be here?

i was told it was crippled (feature wise)
have i been misinformed?

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My take: Canada won't have the iPhone unless there was another GSM provider in Canada. Rogers isn't losing anything since Telus or Bell can't bring in the iPhone.
Fido won't because it's a Rogers company.

So we'll have to wait for Vidéotron to get into the GSM business.

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Re: iphone - will be here?

said by Quake110 See Profile :

My take: Canada won't have the iPhone unless there was another GSM provider in Canada. Rogers isn't losing anything since Telus or Bell can't bring in the iPhone.
Fido won't because it's a Rogers company.

So we'll have to wait for Vidéotron to get into the GSM business.
Wrong, the iPhone IS coming and i'll tell you now it is Rogers, it just took a bit of negotiation.

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Re: iphone - will be here?

how do you know this?

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We at Rogers are getting the Iphone but there is no release date yet.

Few other new toys coming out too.

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Re: iphone - will be here?

thats great if it is true

i feel sorry for my friend; he just purchased his iphone from US and had to pay duty (somehow they caught his package)


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>We at Rogers are getting the Iphone but there is no release >date yet.

Rogers wouldn't be able to announce it would offer the 3G version of the Iphone until Apple lets the cat out of the bag (this tuesday ?)

It wouldn't be smart for Rogers to start to carry the old version when everyone knows Apple is to start to offer a 3G version.

Of course, this will be an interesting challenge for Apple:

For 2.5G:

850, 900, 1800 1900mhz.

For 3G:
2100 in the world. 850-1900 for canada/USA.

So to add 3G, they'll have to add 3 new "frequencies".

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Re: iphone - will be here?

hmmmmm interesting thanks for sharing

currently i am reading this thread:

»www.howardforums.com/showthread.···=1271071
BryceS

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The iPhone will be released 3 weeks before the spectrum auction in May...my best guess to lock customers into 3 year contracts.

Although it's going to take about 1-2 years for the new companies to be able to fully function.
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thank you all for the replies.
can we expect unlimited plan (i.e. web browsing), and what overall price plan are we looking at?

cheers,
BryceS

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Everything about the iPhone coming to Canada is speculation.

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taken from howardforums:

In any case, the timeline is perfect for Q1 of this year. It appears that Comwave has ammended their trademark use of the iPhone and Apple has officially filed their trademark in the Canadian Trade-mark database.

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BryceS some of us work for Rogers so not 100% speculation.

yeah that talk of Telus going GSM is interesting.

Should make for some interesting price changes and you will see Rogers get the Iphone damn fast if it becomes true that Telus is going GSM.

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said by JayMan See Profile :

Should make for some interesting price changes and you will see Rogers get the Iphone damn fast if it becomes true that Telus is going GSM.
Telus and Bell have both Talked about this more times than I can count from 1 - 100 while walking from Calgary to Toronto... Every time they have talked about it they have decided against it for multiple reason...One being cost...

And besides the fact it would take them a long time (at least a year) before they got the conversion (up and running) forget completed.

Rogers will fore-sure have the Iphone rolled out way before than.... Any way you cut the time line...

And Jayman as far I new you work for company who Rogers contracts with to "in source" the call centers... Your not a direct Rogers employee.... Please correct me if I am wrong...

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said by JayMan See Profile :

Should make for some interesting price changes and you will see Rogers get the Iphone damn fast if it becomes true that Telus is going GSM.
Telus and Bell have both Talked about this more times than I can count from 1 - 100 while walking from Calgary to Toronto... Every time they have talked about it they have decided against it for multiple reason...One being cost...

And besides the fact it would take them a long time (at least a year) before they got the conversion (up and running) forget completed.

Rogers will fore-sure have the Iphone rolled out way before than.... Any way you cut the time line...

And Jayman as far I new you work for company who Rogers contracts with to "in source" the call centers... Your not a direct Rogers employee.... Please correct me if I am wrong...

My Rogers employee numbers says I belong to them. I have a @rci.rogers.com email. so I must belong to them

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Here's the deal with the iphone,

Rogers is going to release the Iphone. What they are doing though is waiting for the 3G version of the Iphone. I have heard rumors that they might have it testing...

They decided not to release it on the current generation EDGE network...As holding off would / will give you the customer a better user experiance not to mention much better bang for your buck when the data plans get re-done again for the 3G Network. If they roll out the plans I am hearing in the rumor mill it will be well worth the wait... 1 gig for $65 is going to look like a rip off...

It's just a matter of time...

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I bet Telus and Bell will setup a roaming-only network for BC for 2010.

Why would Telus/Bell switch to GSM when they can wait and save money.

They will have to go backwards and deploy a 2G network and then release a 3G network then move a 4G network.

CDMA/EVDO --> GSM/HSDPA --> LTE

CDMA/EVDO --> LTE

Which path seems cheaper?

"Researchers at Nokia Siemens Networks and Heinrich Hertz Institute have demonstrated LTE with 100 Mbit/s Uplink transfer speeds."

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Re: iphone - will be here?

Interesting, some of you work for Rogers knowing that Rogers takes leaks of company info very seriously and yet you post the leak here? Something weird about that.

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said by sbrook See Profile :

Interesting, some of you work for Rogers knowing that Rogers takes leaks of company info very seriously and yet you post the leak here? Something weird about that.
sbrook take a look at »www.howardforums.com/ Rogers has this site whitelisted on there own systems so employees can access it at work. Nothing top secret is going to be told to you.

And yeah only Telus tosses employees into vans for reprogramming.

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said by JayMan See Profile :

sbrook take a look at »www.howardforums.com/ Rogers has this site whitelisted on there own systems so employees can access it at work. Nothing top secret is going to be told to you.

Hmm very interesting I think I might join.
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said by sbrook See Profile :

Interesting, some of you work for Rogers knowing that Rogers takes leaks of company info very seriously and yet you post the leak here? Something weird about that.
I think if you know what a lot of us around here actually do for a living your weird feelings would get a whole lot worse...

As as far Rogers goes I think some of us have the wrong picture of what actually the rules are over there...

(Disclaimer my employer does not have a forum on DSLR or for that matter any forum...)

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No, only Telus sends the white vans after their employees.

Unless an employee can show me a picture of a Rogers branded iPhone then there's no proof.
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said by BryceS See Profile :

Unless an employee can show me a picture of a Rogers branded iPhone then there's no proof.
If anyone here could show you I don't think they would. Employees have a pretty strict policy they have to follow... And for non-employee Beta tester leaking information could land up being very a bad thing.....

It's not worth the risk to any-one with a little common sense.
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what about Fido? Anybody know if Fido is getting the iphone also? I hope so! since rogers is getting it but you know how rogers is...

Thanks

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IF it will be months after Rogers. I do believe Fido is planning on getting Windows Media Phones in the next 60days as well as blackberries.
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You can have an iPhone on Rogers or Fido, if its unlocked.

For those who read threads on howardforums, there's one quoting an article from TheStar mentionning TELUS is thinking implementing a GSM network in big center to gain market share of the roaming user pie currently eaten completely by the glutton that is Rogers.

Telus does have good price on data (15$ unlimited). One can only speculate when and IF it'll ever happen.

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Assuming the provider will permit you to use an unlocked phone.
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All providers allow you to use an unlocked phone.
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