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B
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So Misguided

Bruce is an amazing security talent but sometimes his general public writing is misplaced.

For starters, he makes a false assumption that other people are just like him and use all their computers OUTSIDE the home or office, at public hotspots no less.

Most people I encounter NEVER move their computers out of their homes, usually because... they're running desktop PCs!

Further, his assumption that other people, those NOT security professionals, can "secure" their computers for both public WiFi and local network use is rather amazing. It's as if botnets never existed. As if everyone already had properly configured routers and updated OSes.

He tarnishes his reputation with these pieces, in my opinion.

-- B

P.S. WPA is "new"?
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BosstonesOwn

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said by B See Profile :

Bruce is an amazing security talent but sometimes his general public writing is misplaced.

For starters, he makes a false assumption that other people are just like him and use all their computers OUTSIDE the home or office, at public hotspots no less.

Most people I encounter NEVER move their computers out of their homes, usually because... they're running desktop PCs!

Further, his assumption that other people, those NOT security professionals, can "secure" their computers for both public WiFi and local network use is rather amazing. It's as if botnets never existed. As if everyone already had properly configured routers and updated OSes.

He tarnishes his reputation with these pieces, in my opinion.

-- B

P.S. WPA is "new"?
No his point is more people should be like him.

You guys don't really see his point of view here. And i can say I share his point. But I close mine up because I need my bandwidth.

In the real world the user should not be the "security force" but should be the person in the building.

As a sys admin and security oriented person I say he is spot on. The guy is right. Every system should be secured by default for the road warrior. There should be no excuses.

In my eyes the man makes a strong point and strengthens his rep. You shouldn't have to be a security guru. The OS should take care of that and you should just use it.
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"It's always funny until someone gets hurt......and then it's absolutely friggin' hysterical!"

B
Premium,MVM
join:2000-10-28

said by BosstonesOwn See Profile :

No his point is more people should be like him.

You guys don't really see his point of view here. And i can say I share his point. But I close mine up because I need my bandwidth.

In the real world the user should not be the "security force" but should be the person in the building.

As a sys admin and security oriented person I say he is spot on. The guy is right. Every system should be secured by default for the road warrior. There should be no excuses.

In my eyes the man makes a strong point and strengthens his rep. You shouldn't have to be a security guru. The OS should take care of that and you should just use it.
I don't follow you -- what does "should be" and "shouldn't have to be" and "should take care of" have to do with... anything?

To any reader, technical or general, he is saying that WiFi security is overblown and he'd rather see everyone with wide open access points (apparently for his convenience and for the greater good). I see nothing in his article about how OS and application vendors should be securing things properly so WiFi security isn't so much an issue -- he's saying WiFi security isn't so much an issue right now, today, with the clueless users and leaky OSes and apps we have RIGHT NOW.

And so I think you're both wrong... Maybe we read different articles.

-- B
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BosstonesOwn

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Everett, MA
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Maybe I took the article in a different view.
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