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reply to pnh102
Re: Completely understandable

Thank you.


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said by fatness See Profile :

You didn't answer him. Here's your statement and his question again:

said by Karl Bode See Profile :

said by pnh1102 :
It is very easy to be successful when you have the taxpayer teat
I'm sorry, just to be clear, are you talking about muni operators or incumbent operators?
My bad.

Both do quite well (financially) when getting taxpayer money. We see the same examples when taxpayers build stadiums for professional sports teams and such.

And that's why it is always wrong, and it is always the fault of the government when these things are allowed to happen.
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said by Karl Bode See Profile :

I'm sorry, just to be clear, are you talking about muni operators or incumbent operators?
Who's fault is it when any private company gets any taxpayer money?
You didn't answer him. Here's your statement and his question again:

said by Karl Bode See Profile :

said by pnh1102 :
It is very easy to be successful when you have the taxpayer teat
I'm sorry, just to be clear, are you talking about muni operators or incumbent operators?

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reply to pnh102
With all of the talk about how much the cable and telcos rates are, what makes your believe the muni projects are money pits? Maybe their money pits are less? (I don't know)

The internet today is not the internet of yore. It is now where we get access to government, private company bill payments, news, video, radio and good old fashioned plain old discussion via ad-block required web sites. Wait around,
it'll be more or a pita to converse in ten years unless you accept the ads and willing to participate with shills.

In 94 the bells wanted nothing to do with the internet.
They have now taken out the ISPs

There is something to prevent us from investing our own money...we can't get right of way access as individuals or anything other than spending a fortune to be declares cable tv or telephone companies.

You have a profitable idea (or even break-even)?

said by pnh102 See Profile :

Each time a Bell stops a municipally funded Internet project it should be given a medal. These projects have a solid reputation for turning into huge money pits. Local governments have more important things to spend money on than providing Internet.

There is nothing stopping private citizens from investing their own money, without the help of government, to roll their own Internet.


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reply to Karl Bode
said by Karl Bode See Profile :

I'm sorry, just to be clear, are you talking about muni operators or incumbent operators?
Who's fault is it when any private company gets any taxpayer money?
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james

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reply to Karl Bode
Both obviously, because both do so. The funny thing is that taxpayers can either spend the money on their own infrastructure, or they can spend the money propping up some investors portfolio.


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quote:
It is very easy to be successful when you have the taxpayer teat
I'm sorry, just to be clear, are you talking about muni operators or incumbent operators?


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reply to Ahrenl
said by Ahrenl See Profile :

Leave out of the search wifi/wimax and get back to me.
Why? These are perfect examples of why governments need to stay out of the Internet racket.
said by Ahrenl See Profile :

Municpal wired networks have done just fine...
Of course they have. It is very easy to be successful when you have the taxpayer teat, or funds coming in from another municipally run service, from which you can leech.
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Ahrenl

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reply to pnh102
Local money in local governments is very much controlable by locals.

Leave out of the search wifi/wimax and get back to me. Municpal wired networks have done just fine...


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said by Ahrenl See Profile :

Thanks for the FUD.
FUD? Go search this website and you will see many stories about municipal internet failures and boondoggles.
said by Ahrenl See Profile :

Local governments should get to decide what to spend THEIR money on.
It isn't their money. That money belongs to the taxpayers and the government has a responsibility to spend it on things that are needed, not on toys.
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Ahrenl

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reply to pnh102
Thanks for the FUD.

Local governments should get to decide what to spend THEIR money on.

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reply to pnh102
Just the Bells and Cable Co's that drive them out of business


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said by gaforces See Profile :

That's fine, but actively opposing municipality's who are attempting to deploy in rural area's is going too far.
Each time a Bell stops a municipally funded Internet project it should be given a medal. These projects have a solid reputation for turning into huge money pits. Local governments have more important things to spend money on than providing Internet.

There is nothing stopping private citizens from investing their own money, without the help of government, to roll their own Internet.
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Only SHATNER is Kirk.
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