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said by Cabal See Profile :

I hate to bring facts into this discussion, but...

The guy took CDs he bought. He ripped them to mp3. He then loaded those mp3s into some file-sharing program for the purpose of distributing them. End of story.

You do know just because you say "end of story" it doesn't actually mean that's the end of the story, right?

said by Cabal See Profile :

Is the EFF really trying to say that it's ok to try to commit copyright infringement, but only wrong if you get caught completing it?
No, but in our legal system, that is the only way you can be prosecuted for it. You know, with actual evidence.


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said by tcp1 See Profile :

said by Cabal See Profile :

I hate to bring facts into this discussion, but...

The guy took CDs he bought. He ripped them to mp3. He then loaded those mp3s into some file-sharing program for the purpose of distributing them. End of story.

You do know just because you say "end of story" it doesn't actually mean that's the end of the story, right?

said by Cabal See Profile :

Is the EFF really trying to say that it's ok to try to commit copyright infringement, but only wrong if you get caught completing it?
No, but in our legal system, that is the only way you can be prosecuted for it. You know, with actual evidence.
You don't have to commit a crime to be accused of it. Kids are arrested and prosecuted for "hit lists" in schools. If you posses a bunch of materials to make a bomb, you could be prosecuted for a terrorism attack. If you own guns, ski masks, and pictures of a bank you could be tried for attempted bank robbery. The term attempted murder mean anything? Planning to kill a person can have the same sentence as actually killing a person, you know.

There are many examples in criminal law of people punished for not committing a crime. In this case, the guy attempted to violate copyright law.

I don't like the RIAA, but to act like this guy is innocent is a joke. If he is smart enough to rip CDs, he knew what he was doing.

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attempt
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said by texans20 See Profile :

You don't have to commit a crime to be accused of it. Kids are arrested and prosecuted for "hit lists" in schools. If you posses a bunch of materials to make a bomb, you could be prosecuted for a terrorism attack. If you own guns, ski masks, and pictures of a bank you could be tried for attempted bank robbery. The term attempted murder mean anything? Planning to kill a person can have the same sentence as actually killing a person, you know.

There are many examples in criminal law of people punished for not committing a crime. In this case, the guy attempted to violate copyright law.

I don't like the RIAA, but to act like this guy is innocent is a joke. If he is smart enough to rip CDs, he knew what he was doing.

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attempt
What should he be charged with in a criminal court? Possession of music? Does having a computer, MP3 files, an internet connection, CD's, and a file sharing program demonstrate that you are intending to infringe on someone's copyright?

If that's the case, lock me up. I got it all. I don't share music nor do I download music. But I meet your litmus test for handing over my life's savings to the RIAA.

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