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sporkme
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Re: Once Again - Government Holds Us Back

said by pnh102 See Profile :

There is nothing wrong with redlining for the sake of profit. Verizon has every right to deploy FIOS to wherever it believes it will make the most money selling the service and nowhere else..
That's all well and good, but if the cable companies had to build out to places they didn't want to, so does VZ. That's just being fair.

As for redlining, VZ inexplicably built out the crappiest part of this town before going into the moneyed neighborhoods...


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said by sporkme See Profile :

As for redlining, VZ inexplicably built out the crappiest part of this town before going into the moneyed neighborhoods...
People often assume that "cherry picking" will only benefit the most affluent areas. While that may sometimes be the case, as many other posters in this thread can attest that often means wiring the less affluent neighborhoods first! For an initial rollout, there is nothing wrong with a company choosing areas that (for whatever reason) offer a quicker turnaround on expense. This could be due to higher income, or ease of installation (even if this means lower income areas), or it could simply be cheaper to roll services out (initially) to a specific area. Its crazy to demand that if Verizon wants to start offering FIOS anywhere in the city, they must immediately offer it everywhere. If the local government must be involved, they should at least allow Verizon to have a specific percentage of the city wired within 10 years or so, not force them to wire everyone right from the start! As a NYC resident who cant get anything faster that 5M/512k cable, the last thing I (or anyone else!) wants/needs is for Verizon to do what ATT did in Illinois; and that is walk away from the whole deal! Local governments must walk a fine line between pig headed greediness and the benefits of the citizens they represent. If they push too hard and demand unreasonable things, then the citizens will end up with noting. NOBODY wants that......
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there's to much money at stake and they would never walk away from New York and you know it. aside from the cash they would loose, long term, the public relations nightmare that would come will hurt Verizon. they have to have a significant presence in new York otherwise they will look terrible. not offer their premier service in the media capital of the United States? are you kidding? they will never ever leave the table. they are hardly in a position to dictate terms. for them to not offer FIOS in New York City will be the worst possible outcome for Verizon.

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said by rit56 See Profile :

there's to much money at stake and they would never walk away from New York and you know it. aside from the cash they would loose, long term, the public relations nightmare that would come will hurt Verizon. they have to have a significant presence in new York otherwise they will look terrible. not offer their premier service in the media capital of the United States? are you kidding? they will never ever leave the table. they are hardly in a position to dictate terms. for them to not offer FIOS in New York City will be the worst possible outcome for Verizon.
Nobody will know NYC doesn't have FIOS, if Verizon doesn't advertise FIOS in NYC, nobody will know or care. Anyone who hears about it from LI/suburban family and friends, will be manipulated into Verizon DSL and Directv. Its not like Verizon makes maps of availability to the public.
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