said by saber11 :

NETWORK

Project to plan integration of the Adelphia backbone into the TWC network, creating a nationwide TWC backbone. TWC will merge all IP based services (video, voice, data) onto a single common converged network platform.

said by saber11 :

...We will use the results of the trial to evaluate results for possible future nationwide rollouts.

said by AMDUSER :

As would I, if it meant that there would not be any overage charges.
AT&T dryloop dsl 6 meg is only $38.99, only a couple ($2 - 3) dollars more then the 7 Meg/512k service from TWC.

said by dentman42 :

That's my backup plan. I currently have the 7/512 RR from Insight (only one tier offered so far, but rumor has it they're about to start offering a premium tier) AND 6/768 DSL from AT&T (lineshared). Insight's RR is 44.99 WITH cable TV ($10 more without). I've already been considering ordering a second DSL connection on a dry pair since upstream is more valuable to me than downstream and I have better upstream already on DSL. Then there's the possibility of going to WOW and getting 6/1...

said by saber11 :

The introduction of Consumption Based Billing will enable TWC to charge customer based upon usage, impacting only 5% of subscribers who utilize over half of the total network bandwidth.

said by Karl Bode :

Of course when you consider the countless grannies who only consume a tiny bit of bandwidth it all evens out in the end, but I think the investor pressure to always see quarterly gains will make overages happen eventually....

I still think it would be marketing suicide, but who knows.

said by telcolackey :

impacted by issues like this. In reality it is the multi-terabyte p2p DVD downloader that causes faster than normal network growth requirements and the push to usage tiers.

I'm not a granny, and don't like subsidizing your DVD library.

said by B :

I'm not a multi-terabyte P2P DVD Downloader, and I don't like having to check for permission with my ISP before using my Internet connection this week

said by telcolackey :

As you shouldn't, but if you leave your HD Video conf running 7x24 you will have to pay for it like leaving your water running, all your lights on and your windows open in the winter.

said by Boinkfoobarnet :

Umm ... the equipment is capital intensive and the bandwidth is purchased. Me thinks you have not taken undergrad economics

said by tiger72 :

Me thinks you earned a degree in overanalyzation.

I didn't think I needed to spend the time to describe precisely that there is a set amount of throughput per second that can be used and that there was investment to be able to transmit the data that is transferred, and that networking agreements also play into TW's decision, etc.. etc.. I believe that most readers can grasp that network equipment and data is *not* of the same nature as oil flowing through pipelines experiencing wear as more oil is pumped which deteriorates the infrastructure, which over time leads to ever-increasing expenditures on maintenance, etc...

An ISP can at best be described as a street which doesn't generate the traffic, it just facilitates its transfer. However, unlike a road which experiences physical wear and tear from the weight of ever-flowing traffic (as well as large loads on trucks, for example), a user transmitting a 4GB file does no more "damage" to the network infrastructure than 4 users transmitting 1GB files each, or 400 users transmitting 10MB a piece, contrary to what the ISP's claim.

Is that a slight bit more clear?

said by Karl Bode :

And with systems like DirecTV's VOD system that uses your broadband connection to automatically download HD video, combined with the vast volume of on-line video that's emerging daily, the category "bandwidth hog" is going to ramp up very quickly.

said by tiger72 :

except that bandwidth doesn't expend resources. It's either a "use it or lose it" product - not a finite resource which can be saved and used elsewhere.

said by Karl Bode :

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I bet that the majority of the BBR folks here are in the 40-60G / month range, but think they are going to be impacted by issues like this. In reality it is the multi-terabyte p2p DVD downloader that causes faster than normal network growth requirements and the push to usage tiers.

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Investors who get a taste of per-byte billing will want more. It ramps up the revenue stream, and if they can sell it from the marketing side, it will expand.

And with systems like DirecTV's VOD system that uses your broadband connection to automatically download HD video, combined with the vast volume of on-line video that's emerging daily, the category "bandwidth hog" is going to ramp up very quickly.

said by hopeflicker :

Why are they so concerned with that 5% of heavy users?

said by tiger72 :

"5% of subscribers who utilize over half of the total network bandwidth"

That 5% loses TW money, or they're at the least not profitable.

said by B :

Perhaps we should all just turn off our modems and send Time Warner checks every month anyway?

-- B

said by Boinkcomcastcom :

I've bought/sold and managed ISP's. Yes ... 5% of the subs use 50% of the bandwidth. The only reason you need that type of bandwidth is for illeagal P2P multimedia content.

I don't want to have my bill go up due to abuse ... just as I don't my water bill to go up as the idiot down the street leaves his water rose running 24/7 on the street.