 exocet_cmYou delete it, I'll find itPremium
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kudos:2 | The Interstate Is At Fault! For allowing drug smugglers to pass on their roads. We should hold Congress and our state Legislators liable for allowing roads to be built that facilitate the passing of illegal narcotics!
Same concept, you can't hold the ISP hostage as they just provide the end-user access to the network.
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This may seem ridiculous but to me it's just scary.
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said by exocet_cm:For allowing drug smugglers to pass on their roads. We should hold Congress and our state Legislators liable for allowing roads to be built that facilitate the passing of illegal narcotics! Same concept, you can't hold the ISP hostage as they just provide the end-user access to the network. We have state police patrolling those roads for users transporting illegal goods and also breaking other laws. An ISP would merely be enforcing the laws on their roads as well.
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 MattAll noise, no signal.Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
kudos:12 | said by fAcEtIOUs:said by exocet_cm:For allowing drug smugglers to pass on their roads. We should hold Congress and our state Legislators liable for allowing roads to be built that facilitate the passing of illegal narcotics! Same concept, you can't hold the ISP hostage as they just provide the end-user access to the network. We have state police patrolling those roads for users transporting illegal goods and also breaking other laws. An ISP would merely be enforcing the laws on their roads as well. So create a federally funded agency to monitor the internet then.
The Department of Transportation doesn't hand out traffic tickets for speeding ... so why should the ISPs be the enforcers? |
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said by fAcEtIOUs:said by exocet_cm:For allowing drug smugglers to pass on their roads. We should hold Congress and our state Legislators liable for allowing roads to be built that facilitate the passing of illegal narcotics! Same concept, you can't hold the ISP hostage as they just provide the end-user access to the network. We have state police patrolling those roads for users transporting illegal goods and also breaking other laws. An ISP would merely be enforcing the laws on their roads as well. The ISP is not the government. However, they're the people who built and maintain the road. They hold no power over the people. That's a big difference! |
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 PolarBear03The bear formerly known as aaron8301Premium
join:2005-01-03 | reply to exocet_cm
said by exocet_cm:For allowing drug smugglers to pass on their roads. We should hold Congress and our state Legislators liable for allowing roads to be built that facilitate the passing of illegal narcotics! Same concept, you can't hold the ISP hostage as they just provide the end-user access to the network. I think you have a very valid point there, you just have to remember to compare apples to apples.
See, TK Junk Mail said:
We have state police patrolling those roads for users transporting illegal goods and also breaking other laws. An ISP would merely be enforcing the laws on their roads as well. And I think he's slightly wrong; See, the DOT (through contractors) builds and owns the roads. But the police enforce the laws. As such, AT&T built their network and they own it, but they are not a policing agency. AT&T policing their own network is akin to the DOT handing out traffic tickets.
MattE said:So create a federally funded agency to monitor the internet then.
The Department of Transportation doesn't hand out traffic tickets for speeding ... so why should the ISPs be the enforcers? And he has a very good point. If we (or AT&T for that matter) want to curb illegal activity on the internet, we need to create a police agency for it, just like we have state police for the highways. We don't let the construction company that built the roads or the DOT hand out traffic tickets, why should we let AT&T enforce file trading laws?
Also, if the RIAA (and AT&T) think that illegal file trading is such a problem, they should lobby the government to create the above-mentioned agency, instead of suing people. If someone breaks into my house and steals my TV, I don't sue them for 100 times the price of the TV, I call the police. Likewise, the RIAA should be reporting these supposed crimes to the police instead of filing frivolous lawsuits.
Oh crap, I just realized there IS a police agency responsible for handling illegal file trading/copyright infringement: The Federal Bureau of Idiots!
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