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swhx7
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join:2006-07-23
Elbonia
 ·RoadRunner Cable
1 edit | Re: Gotta love the UK Filtering of sites designated by this "Internet Watch Foundation", which is apparently a private company, is already highly questionable. It's consistent with freedom of communication if there is some way for the public to confirm that IWF is flagging only child pornography and not anything else. But it's not clear that there is any public oversight.
If the additional category is added, there's nothing to prevent the authorities from expanding the definition or applying it broadly. I predict that if this is enacted, any advocacy of Palestinian rights, criticism of the Israelis or approval of the liberation (resistance) fighters in Iraq or Afghanistan will be put on the list very soon after. And again there will no provision for the public to know what they're being prevented from seeing.
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The IWF FAQ lists other things they get inquiries about. Generally their answer is that the other things are outside their remit. But the list gives a good idea of what the government is likely to add, once the censorship bandwagon gets going:
"Computer Crime", "Copyright", "Fraud & Financial Scams", "Identity Theft", "Lottery Scams", "Morbid Images", "Obscene Content", "Online Auctions", "Online Games", "Peer to Peer Services", "Phishing", "Premium Rate Dialers", "Pro-Eating Disorder Sites", "Racial Issues", "Suicide Websites", "Wildlife Crime" | |
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james
join:2001-02-26
antarctica
| Re: Gotta love the UK Wow! Me too! Haha, what kind of simpleton actually believes that crap? Probably the same idiots that think terrorists actually "hate us because we're free". Yeah! Right on! God Bless America! What? What do you mean Judaism, Christianity and Islamism are basically sects of the same religion? But President Bush told me they're evil! How can someone who believes in the same god be evil?
haha...drunken rambling, enjoy! | |
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ninjatutle
Premium
join:2006-01-02
San Ramon, CA | Re: Gotta love the UK This is coming from someone who lives in canaduh lol  | |
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Cuchulainn
The Roar of the Masses Could be Farts
join:2000-11-09
Chevy Chase, MD
 ·Verizon FIOS
| Re: Gotta love the UK Nice going ninjaturtle. Really making strides for civil discourse by attacking the nationality and not addressing the point made. 
Let's get beyond the "we wuz attacked" bullsh*t and start thinking about things that actually stand a hope in hell of making us more secure. Knee-jerk stupidity like criminalizing speech ain't gonna get us there. | |
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Cuchulainn
The Roar of the Masses Could be Farts
join:2000-11-09
Chevy Chase, MD
·Verizon FIOS
| Re: Gotta love the UK said by james  :said by ninjatutle :This is coming from someone who lives in canaduh lol HUR HUR HUR! You sure showed me! I like how you mentioned how the education standards in Canada are so much higher than in your country. Well, you didn't mention it as much as prove it with your comment (as well as your inability to spell "turtle"). To all you other Americans, I'm sorry you have to live with people like ninja"tutle", you sane Americans are more than welcome to come up here. Free drugs! Dude - I'm sorry too. These "Proud Patriot since 9.11.01" types irritate the hell out of me. They seem to think that 9-11 justifies any dumb thing my "government" comes up with.
What's doubly galling is that these "we wuz attacked" types usually live and work in really safe parts of the US where nothing is ever going to happen. Most people I know live and work smack-dab in Al Qaeda's crosshairs and they aren't freaking out.
Most Americans are sane, rational people - not xenophobic, Bible-bashing Mike Huckabee supporters. And we love Canada -- our "Mexico of the North" (just joking!! I've been there a bunch of times and really love it.)
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join:2003-12-20
London
| said by swhx7 :Filtering of sites designated by this "Internet Watch Foundation", which is apparently a private company, is already highly questionable. It's consistent with freedom of communication if there is some way for the public to confirm that IWF is flagging only child pornography and not anything else. But it's not clear that there is any public oversight. note that the reuters article contains innacuracies... (ISPs voluntarily use the IWF, which they have to subscribe to if they want to get the lists....
»www.iwf.org.uk/corporate/page.121.251.htm
members here
»www.iwf.org.uk/funding/page.64.htm
{in practice it is impossible for an ISP to check the lists, because the only thing they notify are "illegal child abuse images" which can carry a 10 year sentence for viewing.... the IWF operate under the section of the law which provides that law enforcement/the security services will not face prosecution for viewing images in the course of their duties.}
the only part of their work that has legal force is that relating to illegal material hosted in the UK (which it would be a criminal offence for the ISP to continue to host after being notified of it's nature...}
»www.iwf.org.uk/police/page.22.40.htm
oversightwise:
quote:
IWF is an incorporated charity*, limited by guarantee and is largely funded by voluntary contributions. It is governed by a Board of Trustees, consisting of an Independent Chair, six non-industry representatives and three industry representatives. The Board monitor and review IWF’s remit, strategy, policy and budget to enable the IWF to achieve its objectives.
The role of the Board and Board members is described in the Constitution and Board Members Handbook.
Subscribing organisations who support the IWF nominate representatives to a Funding Council. Funding Council elects three of its members to represent industry views on the Board.
Non-industry Board members are chosen by an open selection procedure following advertisements in the national press.
The Board Chair is Amanda Jordan OBE. Amanda is a Founding Director and Chair of the SMART Company, a consulting business which specialises in corporate social responsibility.
»www.iwf.org.uk/corporate/page.48.htm
*and as such is regulated by the charity commission
»www.charity-commission.gov.uk/ | |
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keepworldintact
@comcast.net
| I don't mean a Camel cigarette. Focus on proliferation of words like "Zionist entity" "Haters of Islam" "Infidels" "The enemy" .... and other catch phrases associated with death to the Jews, Zionists, W. Civilization.
To hell with freedom of expression. I was 3 miles away from the pentagon when it was hit,, and if there was less "freedom", GWB wouldn't have had such temerity to spend 2 trillion usd.
Lets call it an Islamofiltre. I mean, who the heck is trying to blow the world up. Yes...our "friends"...the Saudis. | |
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Chaudi
@rr.com
| "(resistance) fighters in Iraq or Afghanistan"
*PFFFFFFFFT. What a sick A-hole...
Bombing, maiming, killing women, children, people lining up to become Police... yeah, that's a lovely little moniker, "Resistance Fighters". The moral equivalence of the ghoulish left has no bounds. | |
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