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 | DIRECTV, I 'd b carefull DIRECTV had better B carefull,
ALL the Elected,(present & future) officials have been trying to say there is no recession, but call it what you want, people are getting to the point where ON THEIR OWN,they are refusing to spend $$$$ (tired of price's going up0 and IF you look it's VERY TRUE, [b]FASTEST way to get a company or product price down is to stop using it
look at Interest rates were just lowered to get people to borrow more $$$ look at the housing markets, no one buying used housing, look at stores,from Xmas sales, when i get tired & HAVE HAD ENOUGH, good by DYV prem channels, 1st to go will be the HD package,(which i use maybe 1/4 to 1/2 of it).probally befor April
i've seen it,tried it, & it's so so at best jazzy -- SOME a know how listen to both side & discuss a subject, ======================================================== OTHERS have a closed mind & ONLY know how to criticize
| |  fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium join:2005-05-20 kudos:3 | In other words, what you are saying is that you are having to make some personal choices. It's natural and really is not something that is 100% hand in hand with any recession that is coming.
American's have this notion that they should be able to have a home, a car, all utilities at whim, cellular phones, cable tv, high speed internet, phones with all the long distance they can have, the ability to eat out all the time, travel, go to amusement parks, have the latest HD tv, etc.
In tough times, people have to make choices and cut backs. Will this affect discretionary spending? SURE! ABSOLUTELY! This is what happens in a recession - and it WILL hurt businesses in a time of recession where they ignore that there even is one.
In a recession, a GOOD company will align themselves, tighten up, and run their business to where they won't even notice there even is a recession. You are right, this is a dumb move on DirecTV. HOWEVER, in this case, based on the large customer base they are dealing with, raise the price $5 or not, they are still going to lose customers anyway... so "DirecTV had better B careful" in this case is irrelevant. | |  | said by fiberguy:American's have this notion that they should be able to have a home, a car, all utilities at whim, cellular phones, cable tv, high speed internet, phones with all the long distance they can have, the ability to eat out all the time, travel, go to amusement parks, have the latest HD tv, etc. Aw shucks fiberguy --- I thought it was my entitlement to be an American. Now you went and burst my bubble. 
You mean I have to take personal responsibility for my life and what happens around me? 
That's a very good post fiberguy --- wish more people thought that way. | |  | reply to fiberguy
said by fiberguy:In other words, what you are saying is that American's have this notion that they should be able to have a home, a car, all utilities at whim, cellular phones, cable tv, high speed internet, phones with all the long distance they can have, the ability to eat out all the time, travel, go to amusement parks, have the latest HD tv, etc. fiberguy yes we MOST American's_ "'attitude"" HAS changed to become, the NOW/ME generation I WANT IT NOW,I don't care WHAT i have to do (rob, steal,cheat)to get what i want,and I DON'T want to have to pay a lot to get what i want, & I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU WANT.
your post has just about said it all 100% trueGOOD REPLY ========================================== i've just switched or added my ALL SD channels back on to my set up, so IF a raise' in rates comes to HD, we'll i don't need the HD, since my dvd/vcr player-burner-record doesn't record in HD. -- SOME a know how listen to both side & discuss a subject, ======================================================== OTHERS have a closed mind & ONLY know how to criticize
| |  bobny1 join:2004-09-10 Bronx, NY | reply to fiberguy Ok!. If we are in the middle of a recession and is all about sacrifices, what about CEOs getting millions of dollars in bonuses. Last year most of the CEOs got ridiculous amount of money while employees go cut backs, reductions of benefits and miserable pay increases. The only reason they increase prices is for the top execuTheif to keep their lucrative life style and recuperate personal Real Estate Losses. | |  | said by bobny1:Ok!. If we are in the middle of a recession and is all about sacrifices, what about CEOs getting millions of dollars in bonuses. Last year most of the CEOs got ridiculous amount of money while employees go cut backs, r Bob we are in the middle of a recession,
no we're just at the very beginning of it,watch over the next year, WHEn has,(as tonights Nat'l news said)has the president ever agreed with congress, (NOT GETTING POLITICAL ) about "boosting the economy", with lowering interest rate & making more $$ available to the public. bush couldn't care this is his last year,as far as the CEO go their argument,is I DESERVE THIS $$, i've worked for it, the "'workers"" have always been th 1st to suffer the $$ cut, & the last to receive the $$ raise. -- SOME a know how listen to both side & discuss a subject, ======================================================== OTHERS have a closed mind & ONLY know how to criticize
| |  en102Canadian, eh? join:2001-01-26 Valencia, CA | reply to fiberguy This is personal and discretionary spending - well said.
Many have been jumping through the hoops with all the gadgets that they can get. HD, multiple cell lines with data/messaging plans, new cars, Wii/PSP3, new PC, 20Mbps/5Mbps internet, etc.
There's a LOT of discretionary spending there, and that doesn't include the cost of extras, and utilities to go with it.
If many knew the 'true' cost of these items, they probably wouldn't spend on half of them. -- Canada = Hollywood North | |  | said by en102:This is personal and discretionary spending - well said. Many have been jumping through the hoops with all the gadgets that they can get. HD, multiple cell lines with data/messaging plans, new cars, Wii/PSP3, new PC, 20Mbps/5Mbps internet, etc. There's a LOT of discretionary spending there, and that doesn't include the cost of extras, and utilities to go with it. If many knew the 'true' cost of these items, they probably wouldn't spend on half of them. pple/ salemen-women trying to get me to UPGRADE cell phone, (to camera or text phone, but i can figure out HOW people can text so fast or long on a phone pushing little,buttons, heck it would take me probally 30 minutes just to text out hello How are you 7 put in an address. using the cell phone, -- SOME a know how listen to both side & discuss a subject, ======================================================== OTHERS have a closed mind & ONLY know how to criticize
| |  fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium join:2005-05-20 kudos:3 | reply to bobny1 bobny1,
I think what you are getting at is that a recession should affect everyone equally. The simple fact is that recessions affect people differently at different levels.
Is it a fair that a CEO makes what they do? Maybe.. maybe not, .. BUT, no one said like was fair, equal, or going to pan out for everyone the same. What we are guaranteed in life, in this country is for the pursuit of happiness. Some people have it more than others.. and, if you think money makes everyone happy, it don't.
I measure life on different levels that many people do. Having fought and won a nasty battle with cancer several years back, I tend to look at life a little different afterwards.
Do I have a comfortable life? Sure.. is it the money that makes me happy? No! Absolutely not! Does it help? Maybe.. at times.. and in some cases. But, to be honest, I could easily go back to where I used to be when I was really young and still enjoy life.
It's really hard to sit here and think that a CEO is going to make a sacrifice to the same level that you and I may have to. However, how do you know that some of these CEO's didn't already make those sacrifices? News flash - not every CEO was handed their job on a silver platter. SOME of them actually scraped up money working a job or two and put themselves through college. They didn't have iPods, cell phones, nice cars, multiple computers, HD Flat panel TV's.. etc. like many here do. What they had to "sacrifice" was the ability to go on vacations, travel, go out and have drinks with friends all the time.. have fun toys.. etc. SOME people actually put their youth days into college and made something of themselves to be where they are at today.
When I was starting out, and I did so at the age of 16, I worked THREE jobs, STILL attended high school, and paid my own bills. At age 17, I took the California High School proficiency Exam, passed it, and went to college as a high school Jr. (the CHSPE exam allows you to graduate early for college) So while many of my friends were out having a good time, I sacrificed a lot in order to have a life that I do today.
Am I a CEO? No.. am I doing well? Yes. Is the recession going to hurt me? in some ways - it will.. it will slow me down in my growth. Will I feel the pain that others here are? not really..
So for you to sit here with an uneducated look at others, looking through glass windows and calling every CEO a thief, why don't you take a course or two on the economy and how it works. It's the JOB of the CEO to cut back on the lower end labor in tough times. It is a fact of life that it happens. If the CEOs didn't make these cut backs then there may be no company left for anyone to work at... so to be honest, many of the CEO making those millions deserve their pay.
Lucrative life style? Sorry to say, that's a sour attitude looking in and I don't agree with it in a blanket fashion. | | |
|  | Re: FIBERGUY, 1st to others I know we're getting a little off subject, but FIBERGUY, YOU SIR are one very WISE MAN, | |
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