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58ef2c0
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join:2000-05-11
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| Re: It's good but not great said by Dogfather  :I'm sure we'll see future ATV type devices doing 1080i or even 1080P. There already here. It's called TiVo. Apple is way late to this game. My Series 3 HD can rent movies from Amazon. What is Apple bringing to the table?
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58ef2c0
Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11
·AT&T Midwest
| Re: It's good but not great The question was about 1080i/p equipment. TiVo can do that right now, and does. The content will come. You think Amazon doesn't have the resources to do that?
The Apple TV and XBOX are not DVRs, either. Apple needs to get on the ball and add that functionality (it's not that hard, but will require additional hardware) if they expect it to grow. Currently it's the bastard stepchild of the product line.
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I think I know it all.
VIP
join:2000-09-26
Camby, IN
 ·Comcast
 ·Callcentric
| Here's what Apple's bringing to the table:
1) your music. Got iTunes on a computer in your house? AppleTV can either sync or stream the music directly. can Tivo do that?
2) Pictures. Got iPhoto? AppleTV can sync iPhoto albums or your entire library.
3) Ease of use. No getting out the mouse to control the AppleTV. I have a windows HTPC using BeyondTV, so when I want to stream something from netflix I have to get out the mouse and hope that MS's DRM doesn't decide to lock me out (for some reason it does that with the streaming feature every now and then).
4) cross platform compatibility. Does Netflix streaming work with Macs? Does Tivo support anything advanced on Macs?
I know the AppleTV isn't fully featured and I would LOVE for Apple to buy ElGato, fix up eyeTV, and integrate the entire thing into a Mini with built-in digital tuners HOWEVER, it's not happening yet.
I use my AppleTV for hours each day for pictures, music, shows, etc. Once rentals are available on it I could even see getting a movie every now and then. I have clients who have gotten rid of their Comcast because all of the shows they want to watch and record are available through iTunes. | |
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join:2002-05-17
Palm Desert, CA
·Pacific Bell - SBC
|  Re: It's good but not great
said by rugby :Here's what Apple's bringing to the table: 1) your music. Got iTunes on a computer in your house? AppleTV can either sync or stream the music directly. can Tivo do that? 2) Pictures. Got iPhoto? AppleTV can sync iPhoto albums or your entire library. 3) Ease of use. No getting out the mouse to control the AppleTV. I have a windows HTPC using BeyondTV, so when I want to stream something from netflix I have to get out the mouse and hope that MS's DRM doesn't decide to lock me out (for some reason it does that with the streaming feature every now and then). 4) cross platform compatibility. Does Netflix streaming work with Macs? Does Tivo support anything advanced on Macs? I've had a Buffalo Link Theater DVD Networked Player for years that does all this with a Remote. It streams DVD quality video at 1080i from PC or Server over Ethernet. It does not play DRM protected video well, even though it does try to work with Microsoft Windows Media Connect. This unit came out years ago, and I think it is way better than AppleTV. | |
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Culo69
join:2003-08-12
Antioch, CA
| try using Handbrake »www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/12987
HandBrake is a GPL'd multiplatform, multithreaded DVD to MPEG-4 ripper/converter. HandBrake was originally available on the BeOS, but now has been ported over to MacOS X and to GNU/Linux.
* Supported sources:
o Any DVD-like source: VIDEO_TS folder, DVD image or real DVD (even encrypted)
o PAL or NTSC
o AC-3, LPCM or MPEG audio tracks
* Outputs:
o File format: MP4, AVI or OGM
o Video: MPEG-4 or H.264 (1 or 2 passes or constant quantizer encoding)
o Audio: AAC, MP3, Vorbis or AC-3 pass-through (supports encoding of several audio tracks)
You can copy your dvd'S on put them into your itunes and watch on your apple tv | |
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Greg_Z
Premium
join:2001-08-08
Springfield, IL
·Comcast
| »support.apple.com/specs/appletv/···_TV.html
•H.264 and protected H.264 (from iTunes Store): Up to 5 Mbps, Progressive Main Profile (CAVLC) with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps (maximum resolution: 1280 by 720 pixels at 24 fps, 960 by 540 pixels at 30 fps) in .m4v, .mp4, and .mov file formats.
•iTunes Store purchased video: 320 by 240 pixels, 640 by 480 pixels, 720 by 480 pixels (anamorphic), or high-definition 720p.
•MPEG-4: Up to 3 Mbps, Simple Profile with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps (maximum resolution: 720 by 432 pixels at 30 fps) in .m4v, .mp4, and .mov file formats.
TV compatibility
•Compatible with enhanced-definition or high-definition widescreen TVs capable of 1080p/1080i 60/50Hz, 720p 60/50Hz, 576p 50Hz (PAL format), or 480p 60Hz, including popular models from these manufacturers: HP, Hitachi, JVC, LG, Mitsubishi, NEC, Olevia, Panasonic, Philips, Pioneer, Polaroid, Samsung, Sony, Sharp, Toshiba, Vizio, Westinghouse. | |
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join:2004-06-21
Sammamish, WA
| said by Mike :What's so hard about 1080i? 720p = no thanks. You do realize that most TVs today (even 1080p sets) can't really display more than about 800 lines of resolution well? I'm all for 1080p and even have adopted Blu-Ray early because of the higher resolution of the format but for downloadable rentals I think 720p is a good compromise for the next few years. | |
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Premium,MVM
join:2007-11-01
Boynton Beach, FL | Re: It's good but not great I think you mean 1080i... A 1080p set has a native resolution of at least 1920x1080, otherwise it's not a 1080p set...  | |
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join:2004-06-21
Sammamish, WA
| Re: It's good but not great I mean real world (motion) 1080p.
»www.hometheatermag.com/images/ar···Vrez.jpg
Keep in mind I would still rather have a 1080p TV vs a 1080i set. but when it comes to 720p vs 1080p the issue gets a little more complicated. For source material I would still invest in 1080p if I'm owning the material (Blu-Ray for example) but for a rental it's another issue and 720p is okay for me at least until TVs get a little better. | |
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NOCMan
Verizon Fios User
Premium
join:2004-09-30
Flower Mound, TX | Re: It's good but not great Surprised people are not suing for false advertising then. | |
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Count Zero
MD2Be
Premium
join:2007-01-18
Warner Robins, GA | Re: It's good but not great The European Broadcasting Union (EBU) recommends that its members use 720p50 with the possibility of 1080i50 on a programme-by-programme basis and 1080p50 as a future option.[2][3][4]
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join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA | I'll take good quality 720p over 1080i any day of the week. | |
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foobar9idfp09sd4
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| said by Mike :What's so hard about 1080i? 720p = no thanks. Because it goes great with your $200 gold-plated Monster HDMI cables, right? | |
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NOCMan
Verizon Fios User
Premium
join:2004-09-30
Flower Mound, TX
| Re: It's good but not great Dont get me started. Some idiot at Best Buy tried selling me gold plated FIBER cables when I grabbed the el-cheapo ones. Said the gold helped the light move.
I install fiber all day long at work. I wanted to beat this guy down. Course I want to do that to most sales people because they usually just bug and lie to customers just to get a sale. Especially when they pull that crap on the elderly. | |
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NOCMan
Verizon Fios User
Premium
join:2004-09-30
Flower Mound, TX | 720p is just fine. | |
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alchav
join:2002-05-17
Palm Desert, CA
·Pacific Bell - SBC
| The only thing that AppleTV does is wet people's appetite to play Movies on a Network. Apple products are all about Apple, and this is fine for The Company, but people want more flexibility to watch, store, and play on what ever they want. Just like with Music, remember when the 8 Track or Cassette were invented, you could record what ever song or mix you wanted. This is what people want now with the Movies, the ability to record and play when ever they want on what ever they want. | |
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join:2004-06-21
Sammamish, WA
| Re: It's good but not great said by Dogfather :But right now it's like an iPod that ONLY plays Apple protected tracks. You do realize that the iPod and AppleTV will play non-Apple protected tracks right?  | |
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join:2003-08-15
Spokane, WA
| Re: It's good but not great said by Pictor Guy :said by Dogfather :But right now it's like an iPod that ONLY plays Apple protected tracks. You do realize that the iPod and AppleTV will play non-Apple protected tracks right? Most likely neither do. However, several hundred millions units of iPod makes it clear that most people do. | |
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