xsiddalx
join:2005-03-11
Chicago, IL
 ·AT&T Yahoo
| reply to NY Tel
Re: What is the point?
said by NY Tel  :said by xsiddalx :Someone is making money here....GC may never need to charge if they stay below the radar said by NY Tel :This will work until Grand Central begins charging to connect these types of calls. It is stated in the Beta TOS that eventually, they will charge a "fee" for outgoing connections. For now, enjoy the calls. I also have a similar setup minus the spinning propeller on my head.  Yes, I know they do make money with all of the termination charges/fees/etc. etc. but I can't imagine someone won't want to "double dip" and get re-reimbursed from the carriers AND the end users. It is the way of the old "Bell System"... The problem is none of the carriers want to charge their customers for pure bandwidth/connectivity. They all want to double dip. The system is not restricted to Bell. The newspapers do it (failing model?), cable does it (failing model?), grocery stores do it (failing model?). Those are three easy pickings, there are certainly more.
I certainly think what GC is doing makes perfect sense and they SHOULD do it. It is just a matter of time before old arbitrage game ends and a new one begins Regulatory encourages some of this, but then again, so do contracts engaged by short sighted dominant players. How else would Cogent have a plan?
The BOCs are idiots (IMO), but their size and clout generally get them out of trouble every time (again IMO). |
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NY Tel
Premium
join:2004-04-09
Smithtown, NY
 ·VOIPo
| reply to xsiddalx
said by xsiddalx :Someone is making money here....GC may never need to charge if they stay below the radar said by NY Tel :This will work until Grand Central begins charging to connect these types of calls. It is stated in the Beta TOS that eventually, they will charge a "fee" for outgoing connections. For now, enjoy the calls. I also have a similar setup minus the spinning propeller on my head. Yes, I know they do make money with all of the termination charges/fees/etc. etc. but I can't imagine someone won't want to "double dip" and get re-reimbursed from the carriers AND the end users. It is the way of the old "Bell System"... |
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xsiddalx
join:2005-03-11
Chicago, IL
·AT&T Yahoo
| reply to NY Tel
Someone is making money here....GC may never need to charge if they stay below the radar
said by NY Tel :This will work until Grand Central begins charging to connect these types of calls. It is stated in the Beta TOS that eventually, they will charge a "fee" for outgoing connections. For now, enjoy the calls. I also have a similar setup minus the spinning propeller on my head. |
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NY Tel
Premium
join:2004-04-09
Smithtown, NY
·VOIPo
| reply to Dithers
said by Dithers :
You think $39.95 / year is cheap? I pay zero per year for incoming and outgoing calls throughout the US and Canada.
When I want to call out, I go the grandcentral address book at their website in my account, and click on the 'call' button next to the number I want to call.
Grandcentral tells gizmoproject to call my phone, and, when I pick up, grandcentral connects to the number I am calling.
No charge.
This will work until Grand Central begins charging to connect these types of calls. It is stated in the Beta TOS that eventually, they will charge a "fee" for outgoing connections.
For now, enjoy the calls. I also have a similar setup minus the spinning propeller on my head. |
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Dithers
| reply to dr3yec
You think $39.95 / year is cheap? I pay zero per year for incoming and outgoing calls throughout the US and Canada.
And the voice quality is excellent and the service has been very reliable for the past 6 months that I have used it.
How is it infinitely cheap? Simple, I got an account with grandcentral.com and a free number where my relatives live.
Then I got account with Gizmoproject.
Both the grandcentral and gizmoproject accounts are free.
Then I set up grandcentral to forward calls made to my number to gizmoproject, and set up gizmoproject to forward calls directly to my ata.
So when someone calls the grandcentral number, my ata receives the call and there is no charge for anyone.
When I want to call out, I go the grandcentral address book at their website in my account, and click on the 'call' button next to the number I want to call.
Grandcentral tells gizmoproject to call my phone, and, when I pick up, grandcentral connects to the number I am calling.
No charge. |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | reply to dr3yec
I used Skypeout, at $16/year, and it worked very well.
Downside: You don't get a phone number - only skype users can call you.
Upside: Unlimited Canada/US calling.
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DrD
@embarqhsd.net | reply to wifi4milez
That's $39.95/year, not $39.95/month |
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dr3yec
join:2002-12-19
00000
 ·CableOne
| reply to wifi4milez
It has been many months since I have had any down time. It is in beta but I couldnt tell. For 8 months I been happy with this product. I am getting ready to get a second year for 19.95 for a year. So tells you I am more than satisfied with the product. Even if it doesnt last. Hey I have saved tons of money. |
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wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
join:2004-08-07
New York, NY
 ·Verizon FIOS
 ·Sprint Mobile Broa..
·RoadRunner Cable
·BroadVoice
| reply to dr3yec
said by dr3yec :39.95 for a year* I stand corrected! That is a good deal, how is the service?
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dr3yec
join:2002-12-19
00000 | reply to nixie21
Magicjack |
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dr3yec
join:2002-12-19
00000 | reply to dr3yec
39.95 for a year* |
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nixie21
Premium
join:2004-08-19
Harrington Park, NJ
·ViaTalk
| reply to dr3yec
said by dr3yec :Not sure either here. My voip is only 39.95 a year. Couldn't be more pleased with my product. People will pay anything, just to avoid doing a little research on other alternatives. what voip service do you have? |
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dr3yec
join:2002-12-19
00000 | reply to Camelot One
39.95 is correct. And my service has been superb with my voip. My wife lives on the thing. It is unlimited mins as well. |
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Camelot One
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-21
Sarasota, FL
clubs:
| reply to wifi4milez
said by wifi4milez :said by dr3yec :Not sure either here. My voip is only 39.95 a year. Couldn't be more pleased with my product. People will pay anything, just to avoid doing a little research on other alternatives. Unless I am missing something, they charge $40 per month and you are paying $39.95 per month. Without whipping out my calculator I cant be sure, but I would hazard a guess that its the same price? I dont think the $0.05 savings you mention is much to talk about. He did say "$39.95 per year", though that almost seems like a typo for any decent, full featured service. VoIP is cheap, but the good ones are rarely THAT cheap.
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wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
join:2004-08-07
New York, NY
·Verizon FIOS
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
·RoadRunner Cable
·BroadVoice
| reply to dr3yec
said by dr3yec :Not sure either here. My voip is only 39.95 a year. Couldn't be more pleased with my product. People will pay anything, just to avoid doing a little research on other alternatives. Unless I am missing something, they charge $40 per month and you are paying $39.95 per month. Without whipping out my calculator I cant be sure, but I would hazard a guess that its the same price? I dont think the $0.05 savings you mention is much to talk about.
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dr3yec
join:2002-12-19
00000 | reply to ftthz
Not sure either here. My voip is only 39.95 a year. Couldn't be more pleased with my product. People will pay anything, just to avoid doing a little research on other alternatives. |
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ftthz
If love can kill hate can also save
join:2005-10-17 | reply to Camelot One
not sure ... but my land line is cheaper |
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