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Re: What is the point? Maybe this is why AT&T jacked caller ID up to $9 a month for landlines.
The Message Center $8.95 per month AT&T Unified Messaging(SM) $11.95 per month Busy Call Forwarding $5.00 per month Call Forwarding $5.00 per month Delayed Call Forwarding $5.00 per month Select Call Forwarding $5.00 per month Call Return $5.00 per month Repeat Dialing $5.00 per month Speed Calling 8 $5.00 per month Anonymous Call Rejection (ACR) $4.00 per month Call Screen $5.00 per month Call Waiting $5.00 per month Call Waiting ID $5.00 per month Priority Ringing $5.00 per month Privacy Manager® $7.00 per month Caller ID $9.00 per month Three Way Calling $5.00 per month
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 fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium join:2005-05-20 kudos:3 | Honestly... this is the AT&T way. If they jack up the price of their features, it makes packages look more appealing. Caller ID is $9.99 a month because it's the most popular feature next to voice mail.
SBC was never this bad.. they must have brought someone on board from the old, tired, dead AT&T corporation that brought this vast knowledge with them.
But, when you jack up the price of ala carts, and then you put them in a bundle, it makes that "You save X when you buy this bundle"... um, no kidding?
I would expect Cable to sell a voip product over a switched one because of the nature of their service. But, for a PHONE company to want to go VOIP over their copper switched service is beyond me. Still, I have to say, to them, phone is phone. Since they control the line, as comcast and cable claims, I see no difference. For some at&t consumers, they will get a better sounding call and less static as well. Still, the price? eh.. can live with out it. |
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 fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium join:2005-05-20 kudos:3 | said by got copper :
unless they plan to get rid of the copper :: scratches head ::
...but if they get rid of copper, then how will they send ANYTHING to the home... PLEASE don't make me laugh and say "via fiber" because we are talking about at&t here.. and I've had a good enough laugh in another thread already today. :P |
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 | reply to fiberguy said by fiberguy  I would expect Cable to sell a voip product over a switched one because of the nature of their service. But, for a PHONE company to want to go VOIP over their copper switched service is beyond me. Still, I have to say, to them, phone is phone. Since they control the line, as comcast and cable claims, I see no difference. For some at&t consumers, they will get a better sounding call and less static as well. Still, the price? eh.. can live with out it. [/BQUOTE :Because telco switches are being upgraded to session switches and the like. You can take a 200x200ft dms switch with over 200 DTC's and 100 DTCI's, not including a few SPM's tossed in, replace it with 3 bays the size of a double wide frig and accomplish the same task plus everything is broken down into IP, which ends up being cheaper for hardware and upkeep. Plus, you can have soft switches all over, at other POP sites and switches where everything goes by fiber requiring less eqp over all. IP doesn't care what medium it travels on, as long as it gets there. The days of the DMS 100, 250 and 300 are history. Make room for the Nortel session switches and equivalent.  |
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 | reply to fiberguy Sounds like the grocer that has a 40% off this weeks price sale.
Those 3 dollars pizzas are only 2.50 but at this weeks prices your save MORE.
It gets em/us every time.
CableVoip has a business model based, in part, on regulatory constructs. Most Cable was circuit switched two years ago.
ATT is responding to the game. Kill the circuit switch to take advantage of the new construct.
ATT wins, price the same or slightly less as the competitor for IP based voice services in an unregulated environment (it isn't considered telephone service).
The PHONE company hasn't been pure copper based voice switched any more than the Cable company has been pure coax based video switched....they have both, as you know, they've pushed fiber deeper into the network.
Frankly, once either of them have the ability to provide internet access at any reasonable speed, both can avoid the dedicated circuit switch for origination (maybe termination) purposes. Fiber or not..wireless via any tech provides the same ability, no? It's all a matter for the accountants, engineers and MBAs to fight out.
Then again...I'd argue it's all political...it is all price regulated or not. Both the telcos and cable companies have their crosses to bear at the expense (or benefit) of their monopolies. The only thing I'll give to the latter is that they were at least able to build a business on the idea that over the air tv couldn't occur with a "community access antenna". Both business models suck, but both are winning in America. We sell out cheap  |
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