en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | reply to gaforces
Re: Cool!
In my area, the VRAD's are approximately every 2 city blocks. They're --
Canada = Hollywood North |
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OSUGoose
join:2007-12-27
Columbus, OH
clubs:
 ·AT&T Midwest
 ·Cingular Wireless
·Verizon BroadbandA..
 ·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to nasadude
First off, before you blatenly flame AT&T, do some research. AT&T does have FTTP, mostly in new build areas. However, it is treated like its copper/DSL market to "provide a consistant experience" to all users. U-Verse is just the markiting term used for AT&T's FTTP/FTTN services, just like FiOS is Verizons marketing term.
Second The distance limits are a lil longer than that, last i herd 2-3,000 Ft From VRAD, If it was 1,000 feet, at&t would go bankrupt deploying that many VRADs.
The better question to be asking instead, is how are the accomplishing this, pair bonding? decating a lil more speed to internet from the TV portion? |
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factchecker
@cox.net
| reply to MyDogHsFleas
said by MyDogHsFleas  :Not that big of a difference? Seems big to me. Objectively speaking, based entirely on the numbers, not all that big.
Subjectively speaking, based on user perceptions, it might be big. |
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factchecker
@cox.net | reply to bogey780
In theory, yes, those numbers work out. However, once one works out the effects of overhead, the change in effective throughput is hardly significant. |
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digitalfreak
join:2005-12-09
49533
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said by OSUGoose :First off, before you blatenly flame AT&T, do some research. AT&T does have FTTP, mostly in new build areas. However, it is treated like its copper/DSL market to "provide a consistant experience" to all users. U-Verse is just the markiting term used for AT&T's FTTP/FTTN services, just like FiOS is Verizons marketing term. Second The distance limits are a lil longer than that, last i herd 2-3,000 Ft From VRAD, If it was 1,000 feet, at&t would go bankrupt deploying that many VRADs. The better question to be asking instead, is how are the accomplishing this, pair bonding? decating a lil more speed to internet from the TV portion? Well, he is mostly right.
U-verse doesn't have fiber to the home *THERE ARE SOME FTTP INSTALLS* - they run the fiber to those big, ugly cabinets that occasionally explode *TRUE* , then use legacy copper from cabinet to home *TRUE*. I think they keep max. copper run to 1000 ft *MORE LIKE 3000-4500ft, IIRC*, but that's what limits the speed. Users closer than 1000 ft can get faster speeds (up to 100Mbps if real close).
U-verse is a copper/fiber kludge cause ATT too cheap to run fiber all the way to home.*SORRY, BUT THIS IS 100% TRUE AND UNDISPUTABLE* |
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veloslave
Geek For God
Premium
join:2003-07-11
Pleasant Hill, CA | reply to factchecker
Based on you have 25 to start with... and then big brother tells you how much of and when/where you can use it.........
Same old pachell
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Mom was right.... I NEED fiber! |
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bogey780
join:2004-03-19
Here | reply to factchecker
So in theory 1200kb/s is no more than 800kb/s. So why bother ever increasing speed?
Wanna rethink that? |
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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
| reply to MyDogHsFleas
ATT will terminate your existing ATT ADSL service if you goto Uverse, says in their TOS they can force change the delivery technology of anything they offer if its free to you. Also, in reality, you cant have 2 DSL technologies on the same pair. If your going to get a seperate line for Uverse, possibly yes then, not sure if ATT allows 2 DSL/2 HSI accounts to same address, or if you will have to play the "make APTs at your single family house" trick. Also if your have CLEC DSL right now, ATT will refuse to give you Uverse b/c of legal and technical reasons I THINK. |
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Korkenzieher
@ameritech.net
| reply to MyDogHsFleas
I'm a central office tech for AT&T, formerly worked in the business office, and I think we'd screw it up trying to do as you suggest. You might try turning up a second POTS line on your second pair, then later calling to install your new U-Verse in association with your new POTS. This wouldn't have to affect your existing DSL. In other words, make sure you have a second POTS in service, or they'll mess up your existing DSL to give you U-Verse. |
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nobody2000455
@att.com
| reply to jgkolt
yeah your max user rate is at 60000 but your actually recieving or allowed 25216 as a whole now. years from now you'll recieve the whole 60000 or can i say 55000 depending on how far away from the vrad you are (we hope). the closer the better. it looks like your close if your recieving 60000. your four streams only uses about 15000mb (i think)  and the rest is saved for internet. which you can now max out at around 10000.  can i say wireless n reciever (i sure home so). :P it will help out with there crazy install times. |
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