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xsiddalx

join:2005-03-11
Chicago, IL
·AT&T Yahoo

reply to NY Tel
Re: What is the point?

said by NY Tel See Profile :

said by xsiddalx See Profile :

Someone is making money here....GC may never need to charge if they stay below the radar

said by NY Tel See Profile :

This will work until Grand Central begins charging to connect these types of calls. It is stated in the Beta TOS that eventually, they will charge a "fee" for outgoing connections.
For now, enjoy the calls. I also have a similar setup minus the spinning propeller on my head.
Yes, I know they do make money with all of the termination charges/fees/etc. etc. but I can't imagine someone won't want to "double dip" and get re-reimbursed from the carriers AND the end users. It is the way of the old "Bell System"...
The problem is none of the carriers want to charge their customers for pure bandwidth/connectivity. They all want to double dip. The system is not restricted to Bell. The newspapers do it (failing model?), cable does it (failing model?), grocery stores do it (failing model?). Those are three easy pickings, there are certainly more.

I certainly think what GC is doing makes perfect sense and they SHOULD do it. It is just a matter of time before old arbitrage game ends and a new one begins Regulatory encourages some of this, but then again, so do contracts engaged by short sighted dominant players. How else would Cogent have a plan?

The BOCs are idiots (IMO), but their size and clout generally get them out of trouble every time (again IMO).


NY Tel
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join:2004-04-09
Smithtown, NY
·VOIPo

reply to xsiddalx
said by xsiddalx See Profile :

Someone is making money here....GC may never need to charge if they stay below the radar

said by NY Tel See Profile :

This will work until Grand Central begins charging to connect these types of calls. It is stated in the Beta TOS that eventually, they will charge a "fee" for outgoing connections.
For now, enjoy the calls. I also have a similar setup minus the spinning propeller on my head.
Yes, I know they do make money with all of the termination charges/fees/etc. etc. but I can't imagine someone won't want to "double dip" and get re-reimbursed from the carriers AND the end users. It is the way of the old "Bell System"...

xsiddalx

join:2005-03-11
Chicago, IL
·AT&T Yahoo

reply to NY Tel
Someone is making money here....GC may never need to charge if they stay below the radar

said by NY Tel See Profile :

This will work until Grand Central begins charging to connect these types of calls. It is stated in the Beta TOS that eventually, they will charge a "fee" for outgoing connections.
For now, enjoy the calls. I also have a similar setup minus the spinning propeller on my head.


NY Tel
Premium
join:2004-04-09
Smithtown, NY
·VOIPo

reply to Dithers
said by Dithers :

You think $39.95 / year is cheap? I pay zero per year for incoming and outgoing calls throughout the US and Canada.
When I want to call out, I go the grandcentral address book at their website in my account, and click on the 'call' button next to the number I want to call.

Grandcentral tells gizmoproject to call my phone, and, when I pick up, grandcentral connects to the number I am calling.
No charge.
This will work until Grand Central begins charging to connect these types of calls. It is stated in the Beta TOS that eventually, they will charge a "fee" for outgoing connections.
For now, enjoy the calls. I also have a similar setup minus the spinning propeller on my head.


Dithers



reply to dr3yec
You think $39.95 / year is cheap? I pay zero per year for incoming and outgoing calls throughout the US and Canada.

And the voice quality is excellent and the service has been very reliable for the past 6 months that I have used it.

How is it infinitely cheap? Simple, I got an account with grandcentral.com and a free number where my relatives live.

Then I got account with Gizmoproject.

Both the grandcentral and gizmoproject accounts are free.

Then I set up grandcentral to forward calls made to my number to gizmoproject, and set up gizmoproject to forward calls directly to my ata.

So when someone calls the grandcentral number, my ata receives the call and there is no charge for anyone.

When I want to call out, I go the grandcentral address book at their website in my account, and click on the 'call' button next to the number I want to call.

Grandcentral tells gizmoproject to call my phone, and, when I pick up, grandcentral connects to the number I am calling.
No charge.
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