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danclan

join:2005-11-01
Midlothian, VA
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reply to PolarBear
Re: Makes perfect sense

said by PolarBear See Profile :

"My company's doing horrible, so I'll just keep firing people until it gets better." Makes perfect sense. Right.

Um, didn't Circuit City try something similar to this, only to have it come back and bite them in the ass and end up begging the employees to come back?
You are incorrect on both observations.

1. He is letting the rank and file know that EVERYONE is being scrutinized and that it starts with the leadership of an organization and not just the rank and file. This cleaning of senior executives will lead to new leaders with new ideas and a fresh look at how things are operating. It says very clearly that things have to change and that new ideas are needed.

2. CC laid off their high salaried sales staff en mass then re hired them at lower hourly rates. This was a disaster. letting go of your most productive people to then rehire them at cheaper rates is a total moral killer and turns off the average joe. This sent the message that just cause you perform well and have earned a high rate of compensation and bring in the most revenue to the corp ...well that means nothing to us...


gbvsagbvsahsah

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that is not true. Circuit City laid off the most seasoned sales people and HIRED entry level teenager sales people for a fraction of the cost. These newbies had limited sales experience and that hurt them. Most companies keep the sesasoned people because that is what makes your company.


PolarBear
The bear formerly known as aaron8301
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reply to danclan
said by danclan See Profile :

1. He is letting the rank and file know that EVERYONE is being scrutinized and that it starts with the leadership of an organization and not just the rank and file. This cleaning of senior executives will lead to new leaders with new ideas and a fresh look at how things are operating. It says very clearly that things have to change and that new ideas are needed.
Well he just got hired, so obviously he hasn't done much scrutinizing yet; he hasn't had a chance to. Although I do agree that new leaders with new ideas MAY help, I think he's jumping the gun.
said by danclan See Profile :

2. CC laid off their high salaried sales staff en mass then re hired them at lower hourly rates. This was a disaster. letting go of your most productive people to then rehire them at cheaper rates is a total moral killer and turns off the average joe. This sent the message that just cause you perform well and have earned a high rate of compensation and bring in the most revenue to the corp ...well that means nothing to us...
Um, that's pretty much what I said, I just said it much more briefly and less specific:
said by PolarBear See Profile :

Um, didn't Circuit City try something similar to this, only to have it come back and bite them in the ass and end up begging the employees to come back?

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Cheese
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reply to danclan
said by danclan See Profile :

said by PolarBear See Profile :

"My company's doing horrible, so I'll just keep firing people until it gets better." Makes perfect sense. Right.

Um, didn't Circuit City try something similar to this, only to have it come back and bite them in the ass and end up begging the employees to come back?
You are incorrect on both observations.

1. He is letting the rank and file know that EVERYONE is being scrutinized and that it starts with the leadership of an organization and not just the rank and file. This cleaning of senior executives will lead to new leaders with new ideas and a fresh look at how things are operating. It says very clearly that things have to change and that new ideas are needed.

2. CC laid off their high salaried sales staff en mass then re hired them at lower hourly rates. This was a disaster. letting go of your most productive people to then rehire them at cheaper rates is a total moral killer and turns off the average joe. This sent the message that just cause you perform well and have earned a high rate of compensation and bring in the most revenue to the corp ...well that means nothing to us...
I heard CC laid off people due to BB cutting into their business, and was also told that they took away the commission due to this. I could be wrong but I heard this many years ago.


en102
Canadian, eh?

join:2001-01-26
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Typically new CEO's do a shakeup, regardless.
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danclan

join:2005-11-01
Midlothian, VA
·Verizon FIOS

reply to gbvsagbvsahsah
said by gbvsagbvsahsah :

that is not true. Circuit City laid off the most seasoned sales people and HIRED entry level teenager sales people for a fraction of the cost. These newbies had limited sales experience and that hurt them. Most companies keep the sesasoned people because that is what makes your company.
not thats still incorrect the old employees were given the option to be rehired first at the lower hourly rate


tc1uscg

join:2005-03-09
Saint Clair Shores, MI

said by danclan See Profile :

said by gbvsagbvsahsah :

that is not true. Circuit City laid off the most seasoned sales people and HIRED entry level teenager sales people for a fraction of the cost. These newbies had limited sales experience and that hurt them. Most companies keep the sesasoned people because that is what makes your company.
not thats still incorrect the old employees were given the option to be rehired first at the lower hourly rate
Why don't you listen to what he said. How many of those "old" employees left then came back for much less? CC not only booted 3000 people, they shut down lots of stores. Then, they have the balls to brag about what they did, then brag about opening "65" new stores. Well, I let CC know that I can't shop at a place that would do that. I know others who feel this way but for me, last year, before they pulled that stunt, I spent over 2800.00 there for xmas. This year. I bought 1 DVD at 4.99. Best Buy and mostly online got my money this year and I passed out the word. NO CC GIFTCARDS (got 4 last year). Got ZERO this time around. Sprint is in DEFCON 2 mode and that's good. Fix whats going on inside the company (DUMP NEXTEL/IDEN) first then work on it's image with it's customers. I have 4 sprint phones and have no less then 12 family members who have Sprint in Mich, FL and KY. Nobody has ever complained. Billing seems to be the biggest problem they need to fix IMO.
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